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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:41 pm
by deapoh
mos dan wrote:<i>what ho, brer! bally good merkage! it's not a bad-minded ting is it old chap?</i>
hahahah!

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:41 pm
by alex bk-bk
people like Jammer have in my opinion contributed a lot to our wonderful language. Its all about inventing silly fun new lingo and then rinsing it out !! Dont u remember how fun it was back in school?
Like dan says dont take it too seriously, and dont allow yourself to get taken away with it too much, but otherwise its all about fun with patrois(es) (whats the plural of patois??)
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:48 pm
by fullyrecordingz
what words has jammer made?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:49 pm
by alex bk-bk
shower? murkle? neckle? theres others, but its more the idea that you CAN do that, and then expand upon it by using the words as verbs, adjectives and nouns in different combinations
fun with language
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:52 pm
by fullyrecordingz
shower didnt come from him
it was originally da name of sum gang, so the word got passed down into slang
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:54 pm
by Steve AC23
u cant be serious....this aint doa....overanalyzing everything or whhhhhhha!!?!?!

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:54 pm
by fullyrecordingz
lol
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:50 pm
by j_j
NEEEEEEEEECKLLLLLIN '''!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:16 pm
by ytee
any puss hole test a big gun fe buss....??Brap!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:48 pm
by mos dan
FullyRecordingz wrote:shower didnt come from him
it was originally da name of sum gang, so the word got passed down into slang
really? i've always wondered about this - heard various difft theories. a gang from where?
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:52 pm
by pompende
boomnoise wrote:Language is fluid; it penetrates and conquers. Colloquialisms enrich language and historically words have always been expropriated by different class / geographic groups. I’m not sure what your issue is. Transatlanticism and the black cultural diaspora has resulted in a linguistic exchange which has been especially evident within London for decades, with music subculture being a key proponent of this nexus.
ha ha ha. wot is this, mate? have you enrolled in "history of the english language" course?
mos dan wrote:personally i've been wanting to fuse jeeves and wooster type slang and london slang for a while now...
ah! i've dug those books since day!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:53 pm
by alex bk-bk
so there we go then that means it was apropriated into grime just like its now been apropriated into the language of grime fans. fluid flows. nothing to be afraid of
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:57 pm
by billy blanks
i reckon the dubstep and urban authorities should introduce legislation restricting the number of slang terms an individual can use, dependent on their linguistic history and from where they gained knowledge of the meaning of the words in question (i.e. internet source - no, other source - yes)
thats the only way i can see that the use of such words can be restricted to those individuals who have the right to use them without sounding like a twat.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:58 pm
by shonky
pompende wrote:boomnoise wrote:Language is fluid; it penetrates and conquers. Colloquialisms enrich language and historically words have always been expropriated by different class / geographic groups. I’m not sure what your issue is. Transatlanticism and the black cultural diaspora has resulted in a linguistic exchange which has been especially evident within London for decades, with music subculture being a key proponent of this nexus.
ha ha ha. wot is this, mate? have you enrolled in "history of the english language" course?
Fackin ell, someone swaller a dictionary or what?
I've often found stealing Dick Van Dyke's accent from Mary Poppins to be quite entertaining - don't know how he got the vernacular quite so spot on. Appy ollerdays indeed.
I think affecting really posh voices is far more amusing to be honest, maybe this is what the grime mc's should be doing - notice how quickly all the middle-classes end up trying to sound like themselves so as to sound down. Didn't Slick Rick try this? Oh, and of course Dave Chappelle's impersonation of L'il Jon where he's not saying "whut", "yayerr" or "Ooohkaaayy".
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:08 pm
by obiwan
Shower posse in Jamaica, as in shower you with bullets.
Shower man= Gun man
Shower face= Looking like gun man, ie screw face
Not as I originally thought some kind of male bonding ritual derived from prison culture.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:16 pm
by doctorkinetic
I think affecting really posh voices is far more amusing to be honest
With you on this one- I often find myself talking in extremely long and convoluted phrases simply to put across the simplest of points entirely for the amusement of myself
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:31 pm
by mos dan
pompende wrote:boomnoise wrote:Language is fluid; it penetrates and conquers. Colloquialisms enrich language and historically words have always been expropriated by different class / geographic groups. I’m not sure what your issue is. Transatlanticism and the black cultural diaspora has resulted in a linguistic exchange which has been especially evident within London for decades, with music subculture being a key proponent of this nexus.
ha ha ha. wot is this, mate? have you enrolled in "history of the english language" course?
boomnoise could teach it mate, and everyone wd be well advised to listen!
my fav bertie wooster line atm is, when hearing some good news, "well, that really puts the butter on the spinach!"
wodehouse is one of the greatest writers of all time, no doubt.
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:48 pm
by forensix (mcr)
i read the title and i could only think of this

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:50 pm
by danolboy
ac23 wrote:u cant be serious....this aint doa....overanalyzing everything or whhhhhhha!!?!?!

Proper. The thread that turned into a debate over facism was ridiculous!
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:53 pm
by alex bk-bk
hold tight boomnoise. dont watch the dumb it down crew