datura wrote:I never really got the hype around Big L, he had a few good 12"s (mainly the DITC ones), but the album was patchy and he never really engaged me lyrically.
scandalous!
You ever heard his freestyles?
7min one with Jay-Z and the '98 Freestyle?
mannnnn i love those to death.. jay kills him on the former though. the 98 freestyle is just soooooo amazing
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:28 am
by Soiree
chalk one up for the neckro bumps,
sometimes someone else said it better first...
the only thing I love more than fresh to def MCs is gun control reform.
sometimes, someone else already started what were all a part of.
GOD or BIG Lor whatever.
or DSF, did dsf start B4 U TOOB???
I noticed there is no music in this thread>>?
dang this dawg is dope!!!! big ups NYC!
his freestyle with Jay-Z and the '98 Freestyle (the 5 minute version) are both awesome, but ya also need to check out his parts of the C.O.C. style with the rest of Children Of the Corn (Ma$e is also awesome here back in '94):
- there is also a 15 minute version out there somewhere!
(and sound quality on youtube clips are actually as good as it gets)
"exporting Coogi and Gucci, that's my duty // fuck a big booty groupie, need a fruity cutie hoochie with lots of loochie" (loochie = loot?)
EDIT: part 2 to complete the 15 minutes are here:
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:25 am
by hugh
old school rappers are always eulogised and overrated.
IMO.
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:27 pm
by rev
hugh wrote:old school rappers are always eulogised and overrated.
IMO.
Big L is nowhere near old school, and he was praised by those that knew him when he was alive as well.... I honestly don't think it's a martyr thing with him (apart from when hearing Full Clip with Gang Starr) - he is acknowledged for raw talent.
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:54 pm
by dickman69
if u think big l was overrated youre a fucking moron
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:57 pm
by Richard Ross
Big L is loved by people with backpacks who weren't even in school when he died and usually hate/haven't heard all the decent hip hop they actually grew up with (often don't even rate his affiliates like cam'ron )
it's an image thing
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:59 pm
by dickman69
^ good 1 fucking moron
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:03 pm
by Richard Ross
rayman612 wrote:^ good 1 fucking moron
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:04 pm
by dickman69
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:53 pm
by AxeD
Thread is surprisingly disrespectful.
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:57 pm
by Richard Ross
big l was a very good rapper but he's not top flight
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:37 pm
by Laszlo
^Welcome back
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:39 pm
by Richard Ross
Laszlo wrote:^Welcome back
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:51 pm
by hugh
rayman612 wrote:if u think big l was overrated youre a fucking moron
not overrated outside the game but inside the game definitely. A lot of it comes down to the shitty production he had to work with as well.
Re: Big L
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:58 pm
by Genevieve
He's a great battle/punchline MC with a complex flow. But dunno I'd rate him as highly as an overal songwriter.
In that aspect and even skill/stylewise, he's pretty similar to Crooked I. I'd listen to a freestyle of both of them and pick-up my jaw afterwards, but I'm less engaged by their songs.
Re: Big L
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:20 am
by Jizz
Datsiks production made big l sound good for once hmu
Re: Big L
Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:41 am
by rev
Genevieve wrote:He's a great battle/punchline MC with a complex flow. But dunno I'd rate him as highly as an overal songwriter.
he's pretty similar to Crooked I.
...but 10 years ahead of him?
I find L's style of flow to be much more smooth and versatile, and his metaphors without any pc limitations. But yeah, he's a harlem battle mc, so his lyrical content is pretty narrow - does'nt bother me though.