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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:52 pm
by -dubson-
Jolly Wailer wrote:whats most amusing to me is how apparent it is that dsf is being lurked by the blogoscenti for the content they write about when updating the status of the scene re: ketamine



Reynold's could've done without the speculation into how freudian motivations are informing Caspa's work tho - bit of a stretch methinks
really dont think he is being serious

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:57 pm
by awful
yall some females judging the every move of a man. get to the music, not the rumors and hype. stop hating.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:02 pm
by plastician
The thing that annoys me with articles like this is that, if too many of them pop up, people who spend most of their lives reading blogs and internet forums instead of actually going out and experiencing the music in question start believing what they read to be true, without building their own independent opinions of the subject matter.

Basically these are the same people who write these blogs, and regurgetate exactly what they've read elsewhere without even giving the music a chance.

If you go to a caspa show, its generally very busy full of people going mental. Is it really a crime to help people have fun as part of your job?

It seems he gets a lot of stick on here and on other blogs and sites purely because he is not "cool" in the blogosphere.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:16 pm
by awful
it's easy to take shots at the people on top.. you can see them clearer.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:22 pm
by dreamizm
Plastician wrote:people who spend most of their lives reading blogs and internet forums instead of actually going out and experiencing the music in question start believing what they read to be true, without building their own independent opinions of the subject matter.
This is what is really going on. i said this bare times before. Man doesn't even live in LDN or UK, let alone check any dances.

U see it with funky alot- bare mugs tryin come with some ' online discourse' and they aint even checking for any raves.

I think writers/bloggers/journalists need to reference the events before/as they talk cos if you arent talking about that than u aint talking whats really relevant.

Out to Melissa Bradshaw... she knows what time it is :U:

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:22 pm
by tribute
90% of music journalists are bitter, failed musicians.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:29 pm
by POND LIFE
breeze article, breeze response.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:51 pm
by dq
It's true Reynolds did make some tough criticisms, but the main point of the article was that for someone as massive in the scene as Caspa he felt that the music press hadn't given his album the attention it deserves.

He also said that he thinks some of the disrespect that Caspa's jump-up style gets comes from the snobbery of music journalists and tastemakers.

So despite the criticisms, I give Reynolds a lot of credit for devoting the attention to Caspa's album and judging it at face value rather than bringing all of the baggage of taking one side or another regarding "wobble" before even hearing the album.

Big up Caspa bro do what you do and don't sweat it!

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:32 pm
by rogue star
Plastician wrote:The thing that annoys me with articles like this is that, if too many of them pop up, people who spend most of their lives reading blogs and internet forums instead of actually going out and experiencing the music in question start believing what they read to be true, without building their own independent opinions of the subject matter.

Basically these are the same people who write these blogs, and regurgetate exactly what they've read elsewhere without even giving the music a chance.

If you go to a caspa show, its generally very busy full of people going mental. Is it really a crime to help people have fun as part of your job?

It seems he gets a lot of stick on here and on other blogs and sites purely because he is not "cool" in the blogosphere.
This

and it seems yet again the grammar and phrase police start baring down on all those who's english may not be up to their "high" standards. Please get over yourselves :roll:

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:38 pm
by plastician
Not all music has to be so serious. Some of Caspa's tunes are tongue in cheek but he is certainly no one trick pony.

Its gutting to read such a bad article about somebody as safe as Caspa

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by seckle
Tribute wrote:90% of music journalists are bitter, failed musicians.
thats a bit much, but i'd ask you this....where would this scene of ours be without press, critics and reviews?

its fine to gun them all down if you want, as that is the nature of the blog/journalistic business, but realize that they've played an integral (whether you like it or not) role to the "business" half of this scene. there's a lot of people flying around the world and living their musical dreams with the help of journalists and the hype machine that they feed.

as much as i don't agree with the comments by SR in this case, i'm willing to see them in the context of all his other blogs over the years. he's not one to waiver from his stance very often, and this is what always pushes peoples buttons.

as dq said, we all know how long caspa's been in this, and one blog don't change it. carry on bro!

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:53 pm
by clubo
Plastician wrote:The thing that annoys me with articles like this is that, if too many of them pop up, people who spend most of their lives reading blogs and internet forums instead of actually going out and experiencing the music in question start believing what they read to be true, without building their own independent opinions of the subject matter.

Basically these are the same people who write these blogs, and regurgetate exactly what they've read elsewhere without even giving the music a chance.

If you go to a caspa show, its generally very busy full of people going mental. Is it really a crime to help people have fun as part of your job?

It seems he gets a lot of stick on here and on other blogs and sites purely because he is not "cool" in the blogosphere.
AGREE :!:

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:55 pm
by wilson
Caspa does seem to be a bit of a 'geeza', but you can't argue with the fact that he makes tunes for a purpose (i.e. to mash up dance floors) and fufills it consistantly.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:17 pm
by .spec
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I couldn't give a shit either way about Reynolds or Caspa for that matter they're both going to do what they're going to do but I always find it laughable when artists feel they have to respond to people they see as criticizing them.

If you create any form of art there will inevitably be people who support you and people who criticize you and frankly that's how it should be. If you can't accept that everyone isn't going to like your work then you need to take a step back.
Hanlo wrote:This is why dubstep forum can be bad, the DISCUSSION of the 'scene', fuck all that. Are we wanting to make dubstep a world heritage site or something? Music journalists are stnuc, these discussions are shit, if you're not satisfied with the future of dubstep go out and make something better.
Yeah I know right? God forbid people have dialog about something they have a passion for. :roll:

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:17 pm
by dj steady
Plastician wrote:The thing that annoys me with articles like this is that, if too many of them pop up, people who spend most of their lives reading blogs and internet forums instead of actually going out and experiencing the music in question start believing what they read to be true, without building their own independent opinions of the subject matter.

Basically these are the same people who write these blogs, and regurgetate exactly what they've read elsewhere without even giving the music a chance.

If you go to a caspa show, its generally very busy full of people going mental. Is it really a crime to help people have fun as part of your job?

It seems he gets a lot of stick on here and on other blogs and sites purely because he is not "cool" in the blogosphere.

Nailed it !!!

BIG UP to you CASPA !!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:04 pm
by dhaywood
theres nothing better than a bit of good ol' fashioned ultra violence to settle a score

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:29 pm
by jolly wailer
victoria's secret is obv an ode to the former Queen not some shallow reference to buying yr bird lingerie :roll:

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:47 pm
by osky
we all know the cockney samples have been rinsed, but when u first heard that stuff u have to admit u loved it! it's just now it's been around for ages and everyones sick of hearing "wake the fuck up" or whatever guy richie shit is being quoted. it was original at one point, it's just now it's been rinsed people are moaning.

And like caspa said, he's just doing music having fun. whys there got to be a huge issue over petty bullshit.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:06 pm
by dubstee
Osky wrote:fucks sake more "wobble shite" moaning. its simple don't listen to it if u dont like it but generally it's good in my opinion, ppl want to listen to tunes that hype you up so caspa's right this guys a bit of a donut.
Simon Reynolds wrote:whatever you might say about the [wobble] style –crude, concussive, an instant cliché – it's the one time that dubstep has actually sounded like nothing else around.
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A lot of the people posting in here haven't read the original article very carefully.
dreamizm wrote:This is what is really going on. i said this bare times before. Man doesn't even live in LDN or UK, let alone check any dances.

U see it with funky alot- bare mugs tryin come with some ' online discourse' and they aint even checking for any raves.

I think writers/bloggers/journalists need to reference the events before/as they talk cos if you arent talking about that than u aint talking whats really relevant.

Out to Melissa Bradshaw... she knows what time it is :U:
And yet he references attending a rave in New York which is as significant as 95% of the nights in London. :roll: