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The entrainment freqs sound quite interesting... how would you go about including them in tracks? From reading your post, surely it can't be a bad thing if we can in-build a mechanism of calming people down when they listen to something (when it's desired, that is)

sorry going slightly off topic..

good luck reproducing 13hz mate. a 13hz tone will be inaudible on virtually all speakers and even very serious subwoofers will struggle to reproduce such a frequency. As for 6hz... give up.

hang on you're not talking about a real 13hz tone are you.... doh.

personally, im quite a fan of making bass lines dive.. u know when u automate the pitch on the synth to go from high to low very quickly

Batfink- THAT'S the cool bit!

stormfield wrote:The entrainment freqs sound quite interesting... how would you go about including them in tracks? From reading your post, surely it can't be a bad thing if we can in-build a mechanism of calming people down when they listen to something (when it's desired, that is)

sorry going slightly off topic..

You're right, I think it's a good/useful thing, for sure, even if you're working people up! Some people just get a bit freaked out when they find out that you're fucking with their heads subconsciously...

I've used some of the vsts (see link in my post if you haven't already- Ultradia is my current fav') to pretty good effect, but what I mainly do is to figure out what sound(s) is/are the most common to a track -generally the bassline in dubstep/grimey stuff, occasionally a constantly echoed/reverbed snare or hit of some description- and then offset the left and right channels freq's... remember that you don't need the freqs to remain the same volume/tonality the whole track, but they DO need to maintain the same difference for the entrainment frequency to be established in your head...

I might dig up some more info and links and stuff and make another thread about this, if anyone's interested(?)

would this work on mono systems though?

Binaural beats mastered into the music wouldn't, but I'd imagine that a sound-techie with enough knowledge and a decent mastering/mixing board could probably set the speaker array to do this, I guess... (I know someone I can ask...)
The entrainment frequencies as tones/hums should, though, although that may be a toughie... (see Batfink's post for why)

I love wobbly basses that make my eyelids wibble.

i think this album was trying to do what you guys are describing

Let's just give up on bass and start concentrating on the extreme high end.
Tweter Culture - I tell you it's the next step

Intoccable wrote: nuff heads are tired of the wobbly bass

Intoccible you do chat some shit sometimes - sorry someone had to say it!

Get your misguided aris off this microcosm of existance and actually get out to a dubstep night over here - you won't see many people yawning I'm afraid - they'll be too busy jumping! When the bass wobbles people love it and it kicks off, and the proof is in the pudding. If you don't like it don't f**king listen to it. Next you'll be saying you're sick of the sub or some other shit.

Ok, now I've found my biscuits I'm fine.

Carry on folks.

^

Too many critics not enough ravers.

we gotta convert em with wobble

You cant change a persons colour.

but you can convert em with wobble

llow this man.

Intoccabile wrote:Nuff heads are tired of the wobble bass

Not me