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You have clearly posted the original for free download, remove it.

s'gone

it is available for free download from XLR8R here:

http://www.xlr8r.com/mp3/2008/03/lie

anyways,
great tune! cant wait for the new 12!

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Godflesh Fiend wrote:I've seen the Zomby ep "The Lie" recently at my local record store........is it worth bagging?

Without a doubt. Massive tune.

abdul_tom wrote:I will get flamed for this but...

I think it's time blogging was embraced by the dubstep community, like it has been by other styles such as rave, where there's a huge remix culture based around blogs which i find healthy, even when i don't like the music.

I think this is a good point. Blogs are really helping to spread new and innovative tunes and remixes in a whole host of genres - house, techno, rock, folk - and I think it's a great tool. There are a whole load of shifts taking place in the way music is delivered at the moment, and I think opportunities to reach new audiences are multiplied by blogs that not only offer samples of artists' bodies of work, but also provide context for the music.

But, and it is a BIG but, it only works if it is done with the full co-operation of artists and, where applicable, labels too. With the way copyright law is structured (in most countries) and the traditional means of making cash out of music, if blogs start offering artists' music for free without permission, all that's going to be created is bad feeling. Even if it does help to get the word out about new music.

Some of the biggest and best new music blogs (RCRD LBL, FluoKids, etc.) post large amounts of free music, but it is all with label or artist approval. In fact, it is usually sent by the label to the blog. And there is always as much info given as possible about retail releases of the artist's music, what the label's about, any upcoming shows, and so on.

I have a load of opinions about copyright and such things that I'll keep to myself, but I really think that, with the current shape of the industry, if artists or their labels aren't directly involved with the blogging community, then all you have is a parasitic online culture that feeds off artists and ends up causing hostility. If they ARE involved though, like you say, a really healthy creative environment can spring up for collaboration and evangelism about new music.

p.s. I don't know the details about what went down with the particular track in question in this thread. I'm just making points about music blogging in general.

exactly that reply^

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abdul_tom wrote:I think it's time blogging was embraced by the dubstep community

Look what it did for Skream's La Roux remix. Possibly the furthest reaching Dubstep track to date, alongside "Night". The Dubstep scene is lucky in that a large chunk of followers still believe in and prefer vinyl to digital.

For the moment anyway.

and the Foamo re-remix of that remix is also great

I think all your arguments are pretty futile, as you actually posted up a tune that was released for free download on your blog. We have no objection to blogs whatsoever, and we actually provide many blogs with content (as we did with you for the 1000names remix), and think they are a great way of getting word out on your release. Despite being given an exclusive track for your website, you still felt the need to post our music for free when it was fully available. The Lie has been battered by every DJ of note, and really had no need for more "hype".

If the exclusive of the 1000names remix was not enough for you, you should have contacted the label to request more music, not illegally and without permission posted up our releases. I think a little humility and respect on your part toward the artists and labels you are posting about would not go amiss.