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Post by FSTZ1 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:45 pm

^^interesting

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Post by hurlingdervish » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:53 pm

rook wrote:I find picking out presets I really like and deconstructing them is really helpful in figuring how to make my own sounds.
that may work for you

but whenever i try doing that it still sounds somewhat the same

you really are better off making random modulations to see what happens.

what does this do? now what does this do? and this? etc etc

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Post by futures_untold » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:07 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:
you really are better off making random modulations to see what happens.

what does this do? now what does this do? and this? etc etc
I always read the manual as I look at a new synth. It cuts in half the amount of time I need to learn the features of the synth. Trial & error learning may be fun, but it isn't very efficient. I find combining readin book/manual/tutorials with trial and error accelerates my learning exponentially!! :)

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Post by q23 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:27 pm

Don't just accept the sound that comes out of the synth, sans processing.

Drop an EQ or filter on it outside of the synth interface itself (in the DAW mixer for instance) in order to subtractively create the sound you are going for.

I get alot of sounds in Massive I like but have one or two errant frequencies, or one part of the sound that is less desireable. Specific EQs (parametric) and filters are a godsend if there is some midrange cack that needs getting rid of.

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Post by hurlingdervish » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:42 pm

futures_untold wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:
you really are better off making random modulations to see what happens.

what does this do? now what does this do? and this? etc etc
I always read the manual as I look at a new synth. It cuts in half the amount of time I need to learn the features of the synth. Trial & error learning may be fun, but it isn't very efficient. I find combining readin book/manual/tutorials with trial and error accelerates my learning exponentially!! :)
not for me...

i can read the manual over and over again it doesnt do anything because ill forget 80 percent of it when it comes time to make the synth. this is the quickest way for me and i find it extremely efficient once you understand simple things like "drag the cross-arrow on to a square to modulate stuff"

trial and error breeds unexpected results too...which is half the fun of dicking around with lots of modulation

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Post by futures_untold » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:20 pm

hurlingdervish wrote: trial and error breeds unexpected results too...which is half the fun of dicking around with lots of modulation
True that! :)

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Post by hurlingdervish » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:17 pm

nowaysj wrote:And, massive's manual was written by a monkey's uncle. The worst synth manual I've ever read.
try reading the manual for the m-audio trigger finger...

now that i had to have someone decipher for me

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Post by rook » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:18 am

hurlingdervish wrote:
rook wrote:I find picking out presets I really like and deconstructing them is really helpful in figuring how to make my own sounds.
that may work for you

but whenever i try doing that it still sounds somewhat the same

you really are better off making random modulations to see what happens.

what does this do? now what does this do? and this? etc etc
oh I know, I fiddle with shit for hours. but if you're attempting to capture certain elements of sounds you already have available, it's a wonderful resource.

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