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Post by serox » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:34 am

ov3r wrote:
so it seems as serato is the right thing of today - to play your own bits and dubs but still getting that vinyl feeling - you know what i mean

still want to cut some vinyl dubs with my own tracks dont kno what to do really
each record is different and that is part of the fun/challenge of mixing wax.
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Post by DZA » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:32 pm

One of the worse things i did was buy decks got them cheap but vinyls been eating away at my money ever since :cry:
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Post by serox » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:39 pm

Depone wrote:
A lot of digital dj's have mixed vinyl way before digital djing was invented. Don't get all elitist. If you bothered to actually learn the benifits of digital djing then you probably wouldnt be stuck in the dark ages. I love vinyl. Been mixing it for 7+ years, dont be a cock. :lol:

At the end of the day, its about the mix, not how your doing it.
I know some people who are shit hot with using digital software to mix but I see far more people going down that route who are just chasing fame and do not have a clue about anything. I am bored shitless of seeing people playing with Ableton on a laptop and pushing a few buttons tbh. I am all for people pushing things forward and doing new and cool things but if you are using software to mix two tunes together and that’s it, I will be at the bar.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:43 pm

if you're just mixing other people's music you aren't doing anything special either tbh

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Post by 86. » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:48 pm

Serox wrote:
Depone wrote:
A lot of digital dj's have mixed vinyl way before digital djing was invented. Don't get all elitist. If you bothered to actually learn the benifits of digital djing then you probably wouldnt be stuck in the dark ages. I love vinyl. Been mixing it for 7+ years, dont be a cock. :lol:

At the end of the day, its about the mix, not how your doing it.
I know some people who are shit hot with using digital software to mix but I see far more people going down that route who are just chasing fame and do not have a clue about anything. I am bored shitless of seeing people playing with Ableton on a laptop and pushing a few buttons tbh. I am all for people pushing things forward and doing new and cool things but if you are using software to mix two tunes together and that’s it, I will be at the bar.

I've been vaguely considering investing in either CDjs or Serato. CDJ sounds like something I'd be into, I personally love CDs. I love CDs the way you all love vinyl. It's just how I came up I suppose.

Maybe I overead this....so a CDJ/Serato set up is possible right? It aint just like Vinyl/Serato?

I could never imagine using Ableton. Laptops seem absurd, though if the music was banging I probably wouldnt even complain.

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Post by bugsky » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:09 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:if you're just mixing other people's music you aren't doing anything special either tbh
+1

The reason why i want to get into djin is because I want to spin my own music with music that has inspired me to produce. The problem with being a digital artist is playing the material LIVE. Unless I get a set-up like chemical brothers it's not going to happen any time soon.

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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:21 pm

86 Position wrote:
Serox wrote:
Depone wrote:
A lot of digital dj's have mixed vinyl way before digital djing was invented. Don't get all elitist. If you bothered to actually learn the benifits of digital djing then you probably wouldnt be stuck in the dark ages. I love vinyl. Been mixing it for 7+ years, dont be a cock. :lol:

At the end of the day, its about the mix, not how your doing it.
I know some people who are shit hot with using digital software to mix but I see far more people going down that route who are just chasing fame and do not have a clue about anything. I am bored shitless of seeing people playing with Ableton on a laptop and pushing a few buttons tbh. I am all for people pushing things forward and doing new and cool things but if you are using software to mix two tunes together and that’s it, I will be at the bar.

I've been vaguely considering investing in either CDjs or Serato. CDJ sounds like something I'd be into, I personally love CDs. I love CDs the way you all love vinyl. It's just how I came up I suppose.

Maybe I overead this....so a CDJ/Serato set up is possible right? It aint just like Vinyl/Serato?

I could never imagine using Ableton. Laptops seem absurd, though if the music was banging I probably wouldnt even complain.
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Post by 86. » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:32 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:
86 Position wrote:
Serox wrote:
Depone wrote:
A lot of digital dj's have mixed vinyl way before digital djing was invented. Don't get all elitist. If you bothered to actually learn the benifits of digital djing then you probably wouldnt be stuck in the dark ages. I love vinyl. Been mixing it for 7+ years, dont be a cock. :lol:

At the end of the day, its about the mix, not how your doing it.
I know some people who are shit hot with using digital software to mix but I see far more people going down that route who are just chasing fame and do not have a clue about anything. I am bored shitless of seeing people playing with Ableton on a laptop and pushing a few buttons tbh. I am all for people pushing things forward and doing new and cool things but if you are using software to mix two tunes together and that’s it, I will be at the bar.

I've been vaguely considering investing in either CDjs or Serato. CDJ sounds like something I'd be into, I personally love CDs. I love CDs the way you all love vinyl. It's just how I came up I suppose.

Maybe I overead this....so a CDJ/Serato set up is possible right? It aint just like Vinyl/Serato?

I could never imagine using Ableton. Laptops seem absurd, though if the music was banging I probably wouldnt even complain.
yes you can
peep the akai apc40 for some indepth ableton control :wink:
Seems intuitive as hell. Just watched the vid of their website.

Now I'm watching various dudes on youtube jam out. This is serious. Me want! I should never be so quick to judge.

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Post by fiziks » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:16 pm

If you're seriously considering cdj's, get 1200's and serato instead. That will still be less than 1 cdj. Plus, you can play wax, mp3's whatever. You won't be burning dick loads of cd's either.

The downside is lugging around and hooking up a laptop and everything else. You could always burn cd's for the gig though.

If you do decide to go the midi controller route, keep this in mind. The eq's and volume faders are controlled by the software. That is inferior to a regular ass dj mixer. I bought a numark omni control and that was the first thing I noticed. That controller has 2 outputs though, so you can route each deck to your dj mixer. That makes a huge difference. A controller that has analog eq's would be ideal, but I don't know if any do. Again, software controlling the eq, crossfader, volume faders, sucks ass big time. If you've never mixed vinyl or whatever, you might not notice. Trust me though it's lame.

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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:37 pm

fiziks wrote:If you're seriously considering cdj's, get 1200's and serato instead. That will still be less than 1 cdj. Plus, you can play wax, mp3's whatever. You won't be burning dick loads of cd's either.

The downside is lugging around and hooking up a laptop and everything else. You could always burn cd's for the gig though.

If you do decide to go the midi controller route, keep this in mind. The eq's and volume faders are controlled by the software. That is inferior to a regular ass dj mixer. I bought a numark omni control and that was the first thing I noticed. That controller has 2 outputs though, so you can route each deck to your dj mixer. That makes a huge difference. A controller that has analog eq's would be ideal, but I don't know if any do. Again, software controlling the eq, crossfader, volume faders, sucks ass big time. If you've never mixed vinyl or whatever, you might not notice. Trust me though it's lame.
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Post by idlemode » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:51 pm

wow. well you have certainly made my decision harder. I used to have proper turntables, and have never used CDJ's. So i know how to mix vinyl. But for the pricing issue i'm afraid personally i have to go with the CDJ's or Serato..... guess it's thinking time.... i get the cash next week to start spendning!!

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