ears

jackquinox · Post by **jackquinox** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:49 pm

captain easychord wrote:
billy blanks wrote:ears are for pussy's.
it's true in the heat of passion anything goes

that for some reason reminds me of clerks 2 it wasnt the best movie but some of the filth coming out of randalls mouth is priceless!

batfink · Post by **batfink** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:12 pm

elemental wrote:I'm kinda used to it now, but its taken about 2 years ... you learn to ignore it. But the fact that you will never hear the sound of silence again, is still disturbing.

nail on head mate. i had to give up dj'ing cos of tinnitus and it was after the first Valve at Mass (just raving not djing) that my tinntius became permanent. i took the earplugs out for 5 minutes or less and that was enough to make it stick. it was hell for about two weeks cos the ringing was so loud....

now i have a permanent clean high tone all the time and when i do forget earplugs i can notice the tinnitus increases significatnly in volume. I went to the Tech all nighter and forgot my plugs recently and my ears are still recovering despite stuffing them with tissue paper.

having said all that i went for a hearing test about a year or two ago when it was at its worst and the results said my hearing was markedly above average, particulalry in the really high freqs. pretty weird but maybe having tinnitus makes you more conscious of sound genrally...

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:51 pm

Getting moulded earplugs is the best investment ever. They're absolutely wonderful

This tinnitus discussion is interesting though. I was under the impression that even if you can't recover completely, you can definitely improve a bit over time?

jackquinox wrote:Basically the worst thing you can do is put plugs in at the door and then go into the dance, stand and then take them out because the acoustic reflex (basically a muscle reaction in your ear to very loud sounds that stops the ear drum from recking itself) only kicks in a few mille seconds after the initial damage is done.

That's really interesting, I'm not surprised by it at all though. When I left the last DMZ during cotti and cluekids set, I took my earplugs out but had to re-enter the rave to look for my friend, and I couldn't believe the volume, especially the ultra-high frequencies that moulded earplugs cut out. It was like being punched in the ears..

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:12 pm

having said all that i went for a hearing test about a year or two ago when it was at its worst and the results said my hearing was markedly above average, particulalry in the really high freqs. pretty weird but maybe having tinnitus makes you more conscious of sound genrally

Yeah I was told I had the hearing of a 7 year old when I went for tests, maybe because we concentrate on what we are hearing because of the tinnitus it heightens the awareness. Just as blind people have other heightened senses.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:18 pm

Dusty wrote: Yeah I was told I had the hearing of a 7 year old when I went for tests, maybe because we concentrate on what we are hearing because of the tinnitus it heightens the awareness. Just as blind people have other heightened senses.

Generally blind people don't have heightened eyesight though.

gena · Post by **gena** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:53 pm

This is definitly my field as a future audiologist!

Yes, your ears can be more sensitive to noise in general once they've been heavily exposed to loud noise or music. This is very individual, some can take more sound pressure than others without any severe damage. Being sensitive to noise is often connected to tinnitus as well. If the tinnitus gets real bad, so will the general sensitivity to noise. Some can't even listen to sounds like when the fork hits yout teeth or when cars pass by the street etc.
It's important to protect the hearing from the beginning, since it will only get worse by age and when we're old, all loud noises we've been exposed to during our lifetime, will be summed togeher. Old people are the largest group with tinnitus and noise sensitivity, combined with impaired hearing.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:30 pm

thanks for the advice

just wanted to check, as i thought it was a bit odd

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:35 pm

Deapoh wrote:Although I am deafer in my ear and any loud noise makes it hurt with a swooosh sound... explanation please?

I have this, its like a HP filter has been whacked on to a sound, happens if I hear the vacuum cleaner from a certain angle etc.

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:36 pm

UFO over easy wrote:
Dusty wrote: Yeah I was told I had the hearing of a 7 year old when I went for tests, maybe because we concentrate on what we are hearing because of the tinnitus it heightens the awareness. Just as blind people have other heightened senses.
Generally blind people don't have heightened eyesight though.

hahaha.

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:41 pm

I was wearing some earplugs whilst studying recently (ones that block out all noise) and I had a horrible high tone in my left ear all the time I was wearing them. Nasty.

Therefore I've decided to ignore the money aspect and get some moulded plugs. When you realise your hearing's getting fucked up, £160 seems totally insignificant.

*I would thoroughly reccomend Elacin ER-20s though...£12 and worth every penny. And apparently use the same filter as the moulded ones (20db reduction anyway)

deapoh · Post by **deapoh** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:41 pm

Jubscarz wrote:
Deapoh wrote:Although I am deafer in my ear and any loud noise makes it hurt with a swooosh sound... explanation please?
I have this, its like a HP filter has been whacked on to a sound, happens if I hear the vacuum cleaner from a certain angle etc.

Yeah that cains it too, but anything louder than a clap usually, sometimes it doesn't do it at all no matter how loud the sound is, did I push it too far?

thinking · Post by **thinking** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:13 pm

Deapoh wrote:
Jubscarz wrote:
Deapoh wrote:Although I am deafer in my ear and any loud noise makes it hurt with a swooosh sound... explanation please?
I have this, its like a HP filter has been whacked on to a sound, happens if I hear the vacuum cleaner from a certain angle etc.
Yeah that cains it too, but anything louder than a clap usually, sometimes it doesn't do it at all no matter how loud the sound is, did I push it too far?

mate if you're havin probs like this at such a young age, you must must must start lookin after your ears.

batfink · Post by **batfink** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:24 pm

best thing ive found, and which really helped my ears, is to watch the volume on your ipod or wotever. The sound pressure generated by earphones, and particularly in-ear and etymotic (earplug style) ones is enough to fuck your ears just as badly if not worse than a PA.

i lose count of the number of times i've been tempted to ask people to turn down their (inear!) headphones cos i can hear their music clearly while listening to my own headphones!!!

I got these sennheiser pxc250 noise cancelling jobs and it was the best investment i ever made. means i can turn the volume down on the tube and hear the music better than ever.

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:10 pm

Batfink wrote:best thing ive found, and which really helped my ears, is to watch the volume on your ipod or wotever. The sound pressure generated by earphones, and particularly in-ear and etymotic (earplug style) ones is enough to fuck your ears just as badly if not worse than a PA.

Innit.

Maybe I should train as an audiologist as a way of making my future fortune.

Actually, I won't be able to becuase my hearing will be fucked by then. lol!!1

lycaon_prod · Post by **lycaon_prod** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:32 pm

haha n heres me thinkin this thread waas gonna be about the mc...

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:48 pm

this discussion is cracking me out in a very major way, im gonna get down to the fuckin highgrade earplug store asap, my penchant for standing precisely next to the speaker also must end i think. scary

Batfink wrote:best thing ive found, and which really helped my ears, is to watch the volume on your ipod or wotever. The sound pressure generated by earphones, and particularly in-ear and etymotic (earplug style) ones is enough to fuck your ears just as badly if not worse than a PA.

I got these sennheiser pxc250 noise cancelling jobs and it was the best investment i ever made. means i can turn the volume down on the tube and hear the music better than ever.

do you think things like the hd25s are very dangerous then? given how tightly they fit around your ears?

death_cafe · Post by **death_cafe** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:15 am

This thread is scary.

Don't you think we're all listening to this stuff too loud?

I know its all about bass, but we need to find a way to get it without fucking up our hearing.

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:20 am

Maybe the music should be turned down

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:29 am

jonunderwood wrote:I know its all about bass, but we need to find a way to get it without fucking up our hearing.

Moulded earplugs dude

I have ER9s, should've really got 15s.. so I still get a tiny bit of ringing when I get home, but its nothing compared to what I used to get, and tends to vanish within an hour.

On the plus side, dubstep's generally quite kind to ears! Most tunes have pretty minimal amounts of shrill, damaging high frequencies, and also DJs that play from dubs have had their tunes mastered professionally to cut down on nasty frequencies and emphasize the lovely bass. Yet another advantage of vinyl over CDs.. we also tend to be blessed with nice sound systems, which do far less damage than distorting, weak sound systems that're being pushed incredibly hard.

Going to indie or trance nights twice a week, or even drum and bass nights, would be far nastier for your hearing than loud dubstep..

jackquinox · Post by **jackquinox** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:01 am

Theres alot of factors that influence problems on your hearing for a start even a build up of ear wax can cause tinitus for a short time, also if your tired or inebreated from substance your hearing can suffer as your body reacts slower. You raised a good point before as well basically the first thing to go as we get older is the mid to high range frequency spectrum of hearing loss which is unfortunatley reflective of speech hence the reason you sometimes got to shout at grandma, the bass in a good system is in a real low freq range like 20 - 60 hz anyways and bass sinks it doesnt effect your ears so badly its those damn raspy hi-hats on a shit pa from rent a wreck wacked up to 11 that kill the hairs in the inner ear and thats what will cause problems, on another note i remember going to play at this club where they had ray keith on the weekend before and apparently he blew the monitor cause he just didnt couldnt hear scary!

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