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There are just as many problems with grime as dubstep. I mean, let's be fair... How many people spat to Ghetto Kyote, and not one person thought, "Well, hey! Let me give this whatever-year-old kid who hasn't put the tune out on his own a shot, and let him do a track or two for my album?"

Lord knows Kano could use a few more beats like that, and a few less "Oh please let me get some of Dizzee's record sales!" songs.

At least with dubstep, if a tune doesn't come out, sometimes it was just never meant to come out... With grime, these producers don't necessarily have an audience for their tunes, and throwing a tune over to a DJ to get played doesn't necessarily help sustain themselves if they're hoping to benefit a little.

yeah i think its easier to say if you were much more heavily into dubstep that dubstep has lost more, but its not like grime is in the best shape its ever been either. both scenes basically peaked around the same times, more or less. not that they both dont have good things happening now, they do, but grime (barring a few artists) isnt exactly at the peak of its powers either. its lost a fair bit of what made it so essential in the mid 00s too. things are looking up for grime at the moment though, with so many records coming out, and new producers coming through at last, so fingers crossed things will keep improving.

Tell you what, that new Rude Kid EP on NHNH is fiyah!

yep. and the terror ep on butterz is pretty sick too (well apart from the first track). kind of a weird new sound imo, but i like it.

this mix is quite good, btw... just finished listening to it. had prolly only heard a couple of these trax before.. i like trying to follow the evolution of dubstep, a lot of these pieces build the bridge between grime and dubstep. yeah i think peeps said this same stuff here many times already but I'm just reinforcing it cause its good stuff.

Yep buy the Rude Kid - Jack Daniels EP now!

butterz wrote:Yep buy the Rude Kid - Jack Daniels EP now!

fuck yeah!!! i might.... buy it one 12" !

good grime instrumentals have always had so much more effortless swagger and musical content than most dance musics...my favorite era for instrumentals is still probably 2004-2005...
http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=702

Should be out at the end of Feb

butterz wrote:
Should be out at the end of Feb

Massive release

http://bit.ly/cXjFVx Butterz TV 3 - Elijah & Skilliam Present: Terror Danjah, Swindle, DOK & Rude Kid Live in the Mix b2b.

that quality street ep looks >>>

butterz wrote:
Should be out at the end of Feb

Huge release!!!

been listening to this for about 3 weeks straight - absolutely massive. Got me bare excited for this year

Still love this mix and I still love grime.