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start talking gun regulation or legislation that happens too as most people who own them pre-regulation are granted amnesty
i remember my neighbor snagging a couple sks rifles when there was debate on making those illegal back when

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MikeE wrote:

Ayatollah wrote:

MikeE wrote:if it was political he was a lefty.... tea partiers dont count mein kampf and the communist manifesto as their fave books..


... just sayin

and "leftys" don't count mein kampf as their favourite...

the izan's were left wing authoritarians on anyones political compass... "national socialist workers party" anyone...

On mine they were on the far right. Actually on everyone's they were on the far right.

'Left and right' are pretty meaningless terms in politics. Hitler's policies, social and economic, had more in common with Stalin's than with Ayn Rand's.

deadly habit wrote:start talking gun regulation or legislation that happens too as most people who own them pre-regulation are granted amnesty
i remember my neighbor snagging a couple sks rifles when there was debate on making those illegal back when

Typical panic buying i suppose. Quite depressing though tbh.

dubmatters wrote:

deadly habit wrote:start talking gun regulation or legislation that happens too as most people who own them pre-regulation are granted amnesty
i remember my neighbor snagging a couple sks rifles when there was debate on making those illegal back when

Typical panic buying i suppose. Quite depressing though tbh.

pretty much
i was just looking at rifles (been looking for one) and check out the sks out of curiousity
i could easily and legally turn it into a semi auto assault rifle with the only exception being i'd have to find a magazine manufactured before 94 if i want more than a 5 round mag (which i think is just a state law), and honestly if i was so inclined to use said rifle for something in the non legal sector i doubt that would stop me
oh and it'd be under a grand so not exactly expensive for an assault rifle
edit: oh and i can get the kits to do it on amazon for hella cheap too http://www.amazon.com/Tapco-STK66169-OD ... d_sim_sg_5

hugh wrote:Forgive me If I'm wrong as it has been several years since studying the rise of Hitler, but I am actually pretty sure Mein Kampf did have some strong left wing connotations, and I'm pretty sure Hitler had some really left wing idealistics when he was younger. I can't really remember any of it in detail but there was a definite point where he became far less socially orientated and more right wing.

may so be, but still, no "lefty" counts mein kampf as a fave which is what MikeE was implying

Ayatollah wrote:

hugh wrote:Forgive me If I'm wrong as it has been several years since studying the rise of Hitler, but I am actually pretty sure Mein Kampf did have some strong left wing connotations, and I'm pretty sure Hitler had some really left wing idealistics when he was younger. I can't really remember any of it in detail but there was a definite point where he became far less socially orientated and more right wing.

may so be, but still, no "lefty" counts mein kampf as a fave which is what MikeE was implying

that also goes for the "communist manifesto"! <-- yet this is a fav reading for most liberal people.

I haven't read mein kampf since I was like 12, I can't even remember anything about it.

remember, charles manson was extremely left & malcom x was extremely right!

i!!chea

also remember that over the years in the us the stances and ideology of the democrats and republicans have shifted like mad
what was left or right then, may not be the same now

left's too radical, right's too radical, but watch out for those radical centrists, let's not forget them

Sirius wrote:

Ayatollah wrote:

hugh wrote:Forgive me If I'm wrong as it has been several years since studying the rise of Hitler, but I am actually pretty sure Mein Kampf did have some strong left wing connotations, and I'm pretty sure Hitler had some really left wing idealistics when he was younger. I can't really remember any of it in detail but there was a definite point where he became far less socially orientated and more right wing.

may so be, but still, no "lefty" counts mein kampf as a fave which is what MikeE was implying

that also goes for the "communist manifesto"! <-- yet this is a fav reading for most liberal people.

I haven't read mein kampf since I was like 12, I can't even remember anything about it.

remember, charles manson was extremely left & malcom x was extremely right!

i!!chea

I don't know what a "liberal" means in New Zealand as it can mean a myriad of very different political beliefs depending on wherever you are, but the Communist Manifesto is almost obligatory reading for anyone who leans a fair bit to the "left" on the political spectrum.

also, I don't understand how charles manson and malcolm x's political views have anything to do with this... ???

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just posted last night up on a really solid blog, please read this. its a great analysis of the events taking place around us here in Arizona, and what were solid implications to why Loughner did it.

Ayatollah wrote:

Sirius wrote:

Ayatollah wrote:

hugh wrote:Forgive me If I'm wrong as it has been several years since studying the rise of Hitler, but I am actually pretty sure Mein Kampf did have some strong left wing connotations, and I'm pretty sure Hitler had some really left wing idealistics when he was younger. I can't really remember any of it in detail but there was a definite point where he became far less socially orientated and more right wing.

may so be, but still, no "lefty" counts mein kampf as a fave which is what MikeE was implying

that also goes for the "communist manifesto"! <-- yet this is a fav reading for most liberal people.

I haven't read mein kampf since I was like 12, I can't even remember anything about it.

remember, charles manson was extremely left & malcom x was extremely right!

i!!chea

I don't know what a "liberal" means in New Zealand as it can mean a myriad of very different political beliefs depending on wherever you are, but the Communist Manifesto is almost obligatory reading for anyone who leans a fair bit to the "left" on the political spectrum.

also, I don't understand how charles manson and malcolm x's political views have anything to do with this... ???

liberal is considered to be left (in my thoughts anyways).
the thing with the manifesto, most leftists aren't prepared for the extreme violence that is needed for marx's revolution.

charley & mal - I was just demonstrating that a persons political leanings mean fuck all, espesh considering the impact these 2 cats had.

!!chea

left, right.
so 1 dimensional.

i'm straight forward, bitches.

Sirius wrote:
liberal is considered to be left (in my thoughts anyways).
the thing with the manifesto, most leftists aren't prepared for the extreme violence that is needed for marx's revolution.

charley & mal - I was just demonstrating that a persons political leanings mean fuck all, espesh considering the impact these 2 cats had.

!!chea

the Communist Manifesto can be viewed as an analytical approach to the so-called "class conflict" and the general shortcomings of a capitalist system. You don't have to want to follow it verbatim to get something out of it.