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Re: Working Out....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:33 pm
by BNanni
magma wrote:Nanni/sinestepper: my Dad got psoriasis pretty badly for a couple of decades... it's amazing how much less now he's retired actually - stress was clearly a big factor - so I guess doing hard exercise or getting overheated could cause a flare up. Sweat does make you itch whether you've got a skin condition or not though... it might be the extra scratching making it feel like a flare up rather than actually being a flare up... if you scratch your sweaty scalp, it'll flake no matter who you are...

The best thing to treat it seems to be good doses of sunshine.
That's me fucked then :lol:
Sun really does help though, it's great :W: I also find post-indulgence of mdma it get's pretty nasty for a few days. Everyone has different things that makes their worse though, you just have to find out what it is and try to reduce it as much as you can.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:57 pm
by dreamizm
BNanni wrote:Everyone has different things that makes their worse though
I would say they all relate to a compromised immune system in one way or another though.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:07 pm
by cityzen
:roll: I click on Wub's link once and now I get a ton of ads for myprotein. Great.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:46 pm
by PinUp
dreamizm wrote:
BNanni wrote:Everyone has different things that makes their worse though
I would say they all relate to a compromised immune system in one way or another though.
Probably true. Mine is definitely aggrevated by stress. We've got auditors in at work next week as well.

I'm gonna look like this
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Re: Working Out....

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:10 pm
by Genevieve
noam wrote:
Genevieve wrote:
noam wrote:no i mean they just dont respond to it

watch the video i posted up

if you fall in that bottom 20% it appears at the moment you are destined to just be pretty rubbish at sports/exercise etc.

no. physiological. benefit. that covers everything right? said this like 4 times now lol
Thing is, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying that 20% of the population won't improve at all at playing piano after they do it every day for a month or that not everyone's fingers build up callous when they use their hands a lot. Building muscle is your body responding to the damage done to them and improving them to cope with that damage in the future. It's a very basic property of your body. Like building up tolerance to stimulants after prolonged use. Some people may be more apt genetically at building muscle than others, but giving no response at all is highly unlikely.

I'll watch it later, but from reading about this on a number of fitness forums, this only covers aerobic exercise which is general cardiovasciular exercise like, FOR EXAMPLE, long distancer running as opposed to short distance sprinting which is anaerobic. And it's said to present the facts in a rather simplified and misleading manner. As I said, though. I'm going by what other people say, but it simply does not make any physical sense either. But thanks for the link.

Edit: What I'm saying is. What you would be arguing is that if someone were to be paralyzed from the waist down for 5 years and lost the necessary strength to walk and if they were suddenly cured, it would be impossible for them regain the capabiliy to ever walk again if they fall in that '20%'. And that's simply put absolute bullcrap.
watch the doc then come and argue

im saying what im saying because thats whats in the doc

im inclined to agree with you since thats what i thought also, but yeh, their results seem to tell a different story, could simply be aerobic results they are on about, i watched it a while ago

but also think about the amount of people who train just as hard as professional athletes and essentially are exactly the same as any one of us, you reach a certain potential and cannot surpass it, for some people that potential is just very low, to the point of negligibiity

hypothetical examples in this instance are entirely meaningless since real life results seem to show evidence for the contrary - which imo makes perfect sense; if there's only a top 20% who can become 'the best', there is a likely to be a bottom percentile who make up 'the worst'
Yeah, watching this. They're not saying that your muscles wont'respond and that there's no increase in strength (the word was never used).
noam wrote:but also think about the amount of people who train just as hard as professional athletes and essentially are exactly the same as any one of us, you reach a certain potential and cannot surpass it, for some people that potential is just very low, to the point of negligibiity
Well, like they're saying in the video, it's not about training hard. I used to train a lot harder than I do now and I barely got any results. So people could train their asses off for a year, but if they're not doing it right and eating right, nothing's gonna change significantly. People aren't just giving a body that they can't change.

The video is pretty informative, just not for gymrats. Personalized training is important, everyone responds differently to different training and different food and you'll spend 50% of your time invested in health reading up on different ways to exercise. This video is basically science confirming what bodybuilders have known for years. I've always agreed that different people respond to a different degree to exercise. But muscles simply not responding to being hurt (which is was resistance training basically is) is an untruth. No one struggles on exactly the same weight on everything for a year. And if there are people that do, it's nowhere NEAR 20%.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:24 pm
by jigglypuff
weight training is all good but you really do have to be a bodybuilder enthusiast/gym rat to really enjoy and get the most of it. For me its best to find a sport and combine it with weight training has added incentive to get better at both since you will train weights to be more fit at your sport and your sport will make you more capable at the gym. I like individual sports since if i fuck up its all on me

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:45 am
by Cubicle
I was 6"3 and 132 pounds (60kg) and had enough of all the "TWIG", "LOL LUK HOW SKINY UR ARMS ARE XD" comments so I turned my life around.

Stopped drinking, stopped smoking weed, ate double of what I used to + protein shakes and a shitload of bananas, 3 times fitness a week with only 10mins of cardio and an hour intensive weightlifting.

6"3 and 154 pounds (70kg) in less then 6 months.

Seriously the best decision of my life.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:54 pm
by test_recordings
I did 2 hours of gymnastics with the uni club the other week and it absolutely murdered me... I'm not unhealthy but fucking hell that's some intense exercise!

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:19 pm
by Devry_Kaneda
Cubicle wrote:I was 6"3 and 132 pounds (60kg) and had enough of all the "TWIG", "LOL LUK HOW SKINY UR ARMS ARE XD" comments so I turned my life around.

Stopped drinking, stopped smoking weed, ate double of what I used to + protein shakes and a shitload of bananas, 3 times fitness a week with only 10mins of cardio and an hour intensive weightlifting.

6"3 and 154 pounds (70kg) in less then 6 months.

Seriously the best decision of my life.
Feel ya bruv.

Have yet to weigh myself in the past 2 months, but I'd reckon I;ve put on about 5-8 pounds of solid muscle. A few more in fat, but now I don't look unhealthily skinny, and I've grown to love weightlifting!

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:22 pm
by ehbes
I work out three days a week ... Have to or else I get chubby

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:23 pm
by Electric_Head
bitch knows dem titties gonna grow

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:01 pm
by ehbes
Actually my belly gets rotund...

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:31 pm
by kay
Cubicle wrote:I was 6"3 and 132 pounds (60kg) and had enough of all the "TWIG", "LOL LUK HOW SKINY UR ARMS ARE XD" comments so I turned my life around.

Stopped drinking, stopped smoking weed, ate double of what I used to + protein shakes and a shitload of bananas, 3 times fitness a week with only 10mins of cardio and an hour intensive weightlifting.

6"3 and 154 pounds (70kg) in less then 6 months.

Seriously the best decision of my life.
That height to weight ratio still sounds quite twig-like.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:57 pm
by cityzen
^^Yeah, I weigh more than that and i'm a lot shorter... Still, better than 6'3 and 132. Well done, keep it up!!

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:17 pm
by kay
Well I'm 5'7" and I weigh about 58kg and most people consider me skinny. To be 6'3" and that weight must be completely emaciated. Or with very small bones.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:02 am
by SunkLo
Neptune wrote:How can I tone up the front of my thighs? The back of my thighs are toned, but not the front.
What can I do, in terms of sport? I'm not really fond of the gym.
Run backwards. I guess if you really want a sport, something that involves kicking a lot. Do squats as well.

Biggup the workout crew! Are we posting our routines or wha?

Here's mine:

Day 1
Bench press
Chest fly
Tricep pressdown
Lying tricep extension
Resisted crunch
Resisted reverse crunch
Trunk rotation/oblique crunches

Day 2
Squat
Leg curl
Quad extension
Bicep curl
Preacher curl

Day 3
Lat pulldown
Seated row
Deltoid row
Lateral raise
Seated delt press

3 sets each, decreasing weight by 10lbs each set, rep ranges from 6-10. Usually it'll be like 10/8/6. When the numbers start going up I know to add more weight.

Cycle repeats endlessly with no days off. Been at it for a little over a month, put on about 10lbs.
5'11, 146lbs. Still a twig but now I'm a cut twig 8)
heh hopefully I'll keep gaining and will be hench when summer rolls around properly
cityzen wrote:If you want to gain weight then peanut butter is the one.
Trust
This. After every workout it's two pieces of bread slathered in PB and a glass of milk. Hasn't failed me yet.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:19 am
by Cubicle
kay wrote:
Cubicle wrote:I was 6"3 and 132 pounds (60kg) and had enough of all the "TWIG", "LOL LUK HOW SKINY UR ARMS ARE XD" comments so I turned my life around.

Stopped drinking, stopped smoking weed, ate double of what I used to + protein shakes and a shitload of bananas, 3 times fitness a week with only 10mins of cardio and an hour intensive weightlifting.

6"3 and 154 pounds (70kg) in less then 6 months.

Seriously the best decision of my life.
That height to weight ratio still sounds quite twig-like.
Yeah ofcourse, I won't turn into some jock in 6 months, there is still a lot of work to do. atleast another 22 pounds and I'll be fine.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:39 am
by kay
SunkLo wrote:
cityzen wrote:If you want to gain weight then peanut butter is the one.
Trust
This. After every workout it's two pieces of bread slathered in PB and a glass of milk. Hasn't failed me yet.
That sounds better than an ex-colleague's diet, which included like 500g of peanuts every day! He was putting on a lot of muscle, but was getting decidedly pudgy too.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:55 am
by Cubicle
kay wrote:
SunkLo wrote:
cityzen wrote:If you want to gain weight then peanut butter is the one.
Trust
This. After every workout it's two pieces of bread slathered in PB and a glass of milk. Hasn't failed me yet.
That sounds better than an ex-colleague's diet, which included like 500g of peanuts every day! He was putting on a lot of muscle, but was getting decidedly pudgy too.
Peanuts and all kinds of nuts in your diet are perfect, just not 500g a day, that's a bit of overkill.
Bananes, whole milk, whole eggs, lots of chicken en meat + enough of vegetables, yoghurt, basically all dairy products are perfect.

Re: Working Out....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:57 am
by wub
kay wrote:
SunkLo wrote:
cityzen wrote:If you want to gain weight then peanut butter is the one.
Trust
This. After every workout it's two pieces of bread slathered in PB and a glass of milk. Hasn't failed me yet.
That sounds better than an ex-colleague's diet, which included like 500g of peanuts every day! He was putting on a lot of muscle, but was getting decidedly pudgy too.
Bet he was fun to share a toilet with :lol: