Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:20 pm
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Oh Reeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrry? Where abouts?Dubstep_warrior wrote:Anyone clock this is mixed into a track somewhere on rinse002 album by skream by aint an actual track on the album?
Sorry if I sound like im having a rant, you haven't fully understand my point. Dubstep encompasses different styles to add variance to the genre which is more of a tribute to the other genres, whereas Nu-Rave sells out on providing a mainstream with bits of Indie / Electro / Drum n Bass and currently Dubstep for people that generally wouldn't be involved in these scenes if it wasn't for the remixes of popular tunes (which when done properly actually tribute or develop on the original tunes without selling out). I hate Nu-Raves whole Nu culture of people that think raving is about going to big clubs and having glow sticks. I am heavily involved with the Freeparty scene in the North of the UK, get yourselves out in fields and support local soundsystems and talent!!godspeed_120 wrote:![]()
firstly it seems a bit rich to criticise nu rave on the basis of borrowing elements from different scenes as dubstep is surely based on a pretty wide basis of influences and is praised for it
not really into the slewing of the track just on the basis that its a remix of a commercial tune either...
Nu rave doesnt exist... it (was) a media construct aimed at lumping different genres of music together (indie/electro etc) founded on nothing more than the fact that a group of people from different genres starting wearing the same fashion (day glo) which has now passedlkewis wrote:Heres my post from another thread because it was slightly off topic and I was referred to this thread:
I feel like im part of a small select few that really doesnt like this track?
The world really can do without this Nu-Rave culture which borrows elements of every other scene to sell them out to MTV kids in Shoreditch, just watch Nathan Barley if you dont understand my point.
It started out with really bad Electro remixes of popular Indie tunes, and I thought Dubstep out of any genre would not go there. I was shocked when I heard Dubstep in the tv series Skins, which usually depicts groups of spoilt rich parent poorly dressed London teens taking heroin in derelict buildings with loads of flashing lights and Dubstep playing (I really hope this doesnt actually go on). The Skream track stops me dead in the middle of a skank when I hear it on the dancefloor, guaranteed it usually gets the crowd going as its one of the more commercial tunes, but its usually my key to head to the bar and fill myself with liquor!
and my reply to this comment:
Sorry if I sound like im having a rant, you haven't fully understand my point. Dubstep encompasses different styles to add variance to the genre which is more of a tribute to the other genres, whereas Nu-Rave sells out on providing a mainstream with bits of Indie / Electro / Drum n Bass and currently Dubstep for people that generally wouldn't be involved in these scenes if it wasn't for the remixes of popular tunes (which when done properly actually tribute or develop on the original tunes without selling out). I hate Nu-Raves whole Nu culture of people that think raving is about going to big clubs and having glow sticks. I am heavily involved with the Freeparty scene in the North of the UK, get yourselves out in fields and support local soundsystems and talent!!godspeed_120 wrote:![]()
firstly it seems a bit rich to criticise nu rave on the basis of borrowing elements from different scenes as dubstep is surely based on a pretty wide basis of influences and is praised for it
not really into the slewing of the track just on the basis that its a remix of a commercial tune either...
Also im not slating the track purely because its commercial, I just really don't like it compared to all the quality upcoming Dubstep artists work. Skream is spot on and continues to release awesome tunes, but the last few times I have seen him, I was more impressed by the supporting DJ's especially the lesser known ones which are trying so hard to perform and get known.
End of rant
Yes I know a few and they are proud to call label themselves as Nu Rave, and I see them everywhere I go. Agreed it was a term created by NME originally for Klaxons, although Klaxons say they aren't Nu Rave. It hasn't passed at all, its growing if anything as more and more people decide to wear all sorts of weird items of clothing in combination, especially elements of 80's styles, and those ridiculous luminous plastic sunglasses.FlashHarry wrote:
Nu rave doesnt exist... it (was) a media construct aimed at lumping different genres of music together (indie/electro etc) founded on nothing more than the fact that a group of people from different genres starting wearing the same fashion (day glo) which has now passed
people dont actually call themselves nu rave.. have u met one?
never a truer word spoken. dressing like a twat is fun, people should lighten up. much better to see someone wearing stupid garms and a big smile enjoying themself at a rave than a screwface in a hood whos too cool to brock out. parties are for avin fun!FiASco wrote:give people a break man jesus. people are jus enjoying themselves - worry about yourself
ppl with too much to say and not enough to give
FiASco wrote:
ppl with too much to say and not enough to give
you do have a point but in my experience these little deluded pseudo cool, music knowing people are fucking annoyinggive people a break man jesus. people are jus enjoying themselves - worry about yourself
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Piston wrote:you do have a point but in my experience these little deluded pseudo cool, music knowing people are fucking annoyinggive people a break man jesus. people are jus enjoying themselves - worry about yourself
ppl with too much to say and not enough to give
ive been on a bus before with the worlds biggest, most obnoxious, poshest brightestly dressed group of nu rave twats before and i very nearly slashed my throat....theyre always little posh buggers...bellowing in their big posh entitled voices in an ignorant fashion....theyd be the first to talk about 'chavs' making a nuisance of themselves on a bus but theyre worse..it seems very dependent on the group for them and strength in numbers...i often go to events on my own if my mates cant make it out
but at the end of the day its the worst exposure of peoples desire to be into a scene..there may be some people like that in dubstep, breakcore etc but there is at least actual music that you can say is dubstep, breakcore etc....no-one actually knows what nu rave is..its a total marketing driven genre...there is no music...and i think a lot of people see people that say theyre into nu rave or dressed in that fashion and think to themselves this is a very shallow person..and it does make sense really even though judging anyone is wrong
the only scene people i get annoyed about are the ones that arent in it for the music i suppose...modern emos, nu rave kids and people that say they like d&b and then tell you all about pendulum:D