Production memes

[FAARE FACED]

I come from DJing, before moving to music production (like most people nowadays). And yes there are some really talented guy out here. Still, to me, the dedication, passion and talent needed to produce music outweights what's needed to DJ by far.

[dickman69]

Because one is easy, and has returns (call it the way you want, local fame/credit/success/swag...) within few months.
The other is long, and the result of years spent on week nights at 2 AM tweating a fucking snare drum to make it perfect.

And given that 90% of the population thinks a DJ is "making music" live, I think it's great to clarify, classify and differenciate people between the bros with the serato gaze and beats by Dre from the producers working hard just by passion, without expecting anything back.

Anyway, this rageful rant is way off topic.

Lol fuck off

[Artie_Fufkin]

brrrrrrap

[DJoe]

Because one is easy, and has returns (call it the way you want, local fame/credit/success/swag...) within few months.
The other is long, and the result of years spent on week nights at 2 AM tweating a fucking snare drum to make it perfect.

And given that 90% of the population thinks a DJ is "making music" live, I think it's great to clarify, classify and differenciate people between the bros with the serato gaze and beats by Dre from the producers working hard just by passion, without expecting anything back.

Anyway, this rageful rant is way off topic.

Lol fuck off

[NinjaEdit]

you do know there is more to DJ'ing than autosyncing two tracks both at 140 bpm right....

It's still not on the same tier as production.

[ehbes]

you do know there is more to DJ'ing than autosyncing two tracks both at 140 bpm right....

It's still not on the same tier as production.

no its different, i'd contest that turntablism is equally if not more difficult than production.

[erratech]

Neither is just one thing, they are sets of skills. Some skills overlap and others do not. Writing a song isnt about how difficult it was to accomplish and djing isnt about 'real DJs beatmatch' do what you love and stop worrying. I know its the internet but just stop worrying, its not a leaderboard for a videogame, make what you want DJ how you want and let the chips fall.

[NinjaEdit]

you do know there is more to DJ'ing than autosyncing two tracks both at 140 bpm right....

It's still not on the same tier as production.

no its different, i'd contest that turntablism is equally if not more difficult than production.

Turntablism and DJing are different things.

[dickman69]

Most groundbreaking edm tunes were made in like 2 hours

Just b/c spazzes get caught up on making a snare for 6 weeks doesnt make production more difficult than djing or v versa

[Maxxan]

Most groundbreaking edm tunes were made in like 2 hours

Just b/c spazzes get caught up on making a snare for 6 weeks doesnt make production more difficult than djing or v versa

That's actually pretty well put man.

[DJoe]

I come from DJing, before moving to music production (like most people nowadays). And yes there are some really talented guy out here. Still, to me, the dedication, passion and talent needed to produce music outweights what's needed to DJ by far.

Which explains why there are far more famous producers than famous djs alone.

for every oneman or ben ufo there's 10 mediocre producers

[FAARE FACED]

Most groundbreaking edm tunes were made in like 2 hours

You are probably right, the initial idea and a rough writing of the track can be done in 2 hours if everything flows together.
But producing a decent sounding track from A to Z in 2 hours ? Well, I doubt it. Examples ?

Lol fuck off

Well, given what is said here : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=268519, what about you fuck off and face the fact my statement is spot on ?

[Marcus]

Well, given what is said here : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=268519, what about you fuck off and face the fact my statement is spot on ?

You seem upset, don't take things so seriously.

[ehbes]

you do know there is more to DJ'ing than autosyncing two tracks both at 140 bpm right....

It's still not on the same tier as production.

no its different, i'd contest that turntablism is equally if not more difficult than production.

Turntablism and DJing are different things.

Did Wikipedia tell you that ?

[dickman69]

Most groundbreaking edm tunes were made in like 2 hours

You are probably right, the initial idea and a rough writing of the track can be done in 2 hours if everything flows together.
But producing a decent sounding track from A to Z in 2 hours ? Well, I doubt it. Examples ?

Skream - Midnight Request Line
Oizo - Flat Beat
MAW - Deep Inside
etc etc etc

Lol fuck off

Well, given what is said here : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=268519, what about you fuck off and face the fact my statement is spot on ?

how are these two topics related?

[Samuel_L_Damnson]

brrrrrrap

This is the best one. BENGAS TRIGGER FIngEr

[rockonin]

Something i made earlier lol

[FAARE FACED]

Well, given what is said here : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=268519, what about you fuck off and face the fact my statement is spot on ?

how are these two topics related?

Because the other topic came as a open discussion about a sentence i dropped in this particular discussion we are having here ?

[dickman69]

the issue isnt w/ retards thinking djs make music live

the issue is w/ u saying djing is so much easier than production when in reality its like comparing apples & oranges

[FAARE FACED]

Driving a formula 1 is clearly harder than, i don't know, cooking pasta, and you don't need formula 1 and cooking to be related. Anyway, you won't change my mind, and I probably won't change yours either.