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Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:07 pm
by alphacat
Mr Hyde wrote:For a country that hasn't ever been invaded, US citizens seem pretty paranoid about invasions.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and all that hoohaa.
Actually, we were invaded - by the British,
War of 1812. You fucks!
Just kidding. We
did declare war first in that one, so...
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:52 pm
by Mr Hyde
alphacat wrote:Mr Hyde wrote:For a country that hasn't ever been invaded, US citizens seem pretty paranoid about invasions.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and all that hoohaa.
Actually, we were invaded - by the British,
War of 1812. You fucks!
Just kidding. We
did declare war first in that one, so...
I think Britain was more concerned about Napoleon having invaded most of Europe and heading over the channel (wasn't the USA beef mostly about Britain not wanting the USA to supply France, and the USA seeing it as a good time to try and get some more land off the Native Americans?
).
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:03 pm
by alphacat
Mr Hyde wrote:alphacat wrote:Mr Hyde wrote:For a country that hasn't ever been invaded, US citizens seem pretty paranoid about invasions.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and all that hoohaa.
Actually, we were invaded - by the British,
War of 1812. You fucks!
Just kidding. We
did declare war first in that one, so...
I think Britain was more concerned about Napoleon having invaded most of Europe and heading over the channel (wasn't the USA beef mostly about Britain not wanting the USA to supply France, and the USA seeing it as a good time to try and get some more land off the Native Americans?
).
There doesn't seem to be clear consensus as to any one cause - there's what you mentioned, plus the British going and Shangai-ing American sailors into service in the Royal Navy, plus the fact that we were looking hungrily at Canada, plus various longstanding beefs on both sides from the War of Indepence... and the British cleverly played the Indian population against the newly formed Republic, letting them know that if this new country succeeded it was only going to get worse for them (although I doubt a continued British hegemony would mean much difference back then.)
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EDIT: More WWIII news:
http://www.investingchannel.com/article ... SPVtOQn98E
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:19 pm
by sonar
China 'aiding hacker attacks on west'
Study claims military unit based in Shanghai has stolen vast amounts of data from companies and defence groups
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... tacks-west
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:03 am
by mIrReN
what a surprise
lol @ aiding
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:39 am
by nowaysj
The US response:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- As public evidence mounts that the Chinese military is responsible for stealing massive amounts of U.S. government data and corporate trade secrets, the Obama administration is eyeing fines and other trade actions it may take against Beijing or any other country guilty of cyberespionage.
According to officials familiar with the plans, the White House will lay out a new report Wednesday that suggests initial, more-aggressive steps the U.S. would take in response to what top authorities say has been an unrelenting campaign of cyberstealing linked to the Chinese government. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the threatened action
Ie, the currency war is waning and the trade war is beginning. Only one war after that.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:43 am
by wubstep
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:27 pm
by rockonin
Do you guys find it strange that the army is now being reduced vastly?
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:26 pm
by nowaysj
Not even the half of it. Bad times coming.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:42 pm
by deadly_habit
rockonin wrote:Do you guys find it strange that the army is now being reduced vastly?
Not really there was a need for boots on ground in Afghanistan and Iraq along with normal bases and operations in the states and abroad.
Now that the wars are "over" there is an excess of troops again.
They were recruiting anybody and everybody when they needed troops to deploy, no that there is no need it's time to be more selective and cut back.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:33 pm
by SCope13
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:41 pm
by deadly_habit
Saw that as AP broke it.
My theory is they think all Americans are like Rodman and now want to eradicate us.
In all seriousness if they even have a nuke they can launch, the target would likely be South Korea or otherwise hit the Ocean, and the reciprocation... well WW3, but an incredibly short war.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:58 pm
by nowaysj
Think their threat is an emp strike, not nuking a us city. They established in their last launch that they could put a warhead into emp range.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:04 pm
by deadly_habit
well a month or so back there was a mysterious earthquake from NK, like an underground test.
even so unless a widespread EMP it'd be an inconvenience
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:37 pm
by nowaysj
Well that last launch is in orbit at 310 miles. A good height for an emp blast.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:41 pm
by deadly_habit
if believed, NK is full of propaghanda.
I do believe they had an underground test that caused a rift in SK recently though.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:46 pm
by wilson
deadly habit wrote:if believed, NK is full of propaghanda.
I do believe they had an underground test that caused a rift in SK recently though.
They did, hence new sanctions being drawn up to slap them with now.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:58 pm
by deadly_habit
wilson wrote:deadly habit wrote:if believed, NK is full of propaghanda.
I do believe they had an underground test that caused a rift in SK recently though.
They did, hence new sanctions being drawn up to slap them with now.
I know they have a nuke now, but I've seen documentaries about how it is there like 4 years ago hidden cam wise that just made me feel sad.
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:01 pm
by nowaysj
deadly habit wrote:if believed, NK is full of propaghanda.
What u mean? If believed? That the satellite is in orbit? It is, you can see it!
Re: So, like, WW3
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:10 pm
by deadly_habit
i mean if you believe NK has a nuke that can get beyond a couple miles outside their ocean rim