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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:34 am
by R3b_Official
Like this? Added two more wavetables and switch to performer instead of using envelopes before. Then added some weird reverb shit and got it really loud and spacious.

Now to resample it.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:39 am
by ehbes
[+] Spoiler
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

massive growl tutorial

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:29 pm
by AntidoteWasTaken
R3b_Official wrote:Like this? Added two more wavetables and switch to performer instead of using envelopes before. Then added some weird reverb shit and got it really loud and spacious.

Now to resample it.

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That's pretty neat. I'd turn it into a wobble and give it a tad more body, something like sadhu/d-jahsta are using.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:01 pm
by shim
Here you go guys. For this growl i used fm8 and followed the same effects chain as before. Its a really short growl at the end of the phrase but its still cool i think. Word :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance:

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:21 pm
by Augment
hookjunior wrote:Here you go guys. For this growl i used fm8 and followed the same effects chain as before. Its a really short growl at the end of the phrase but its still cool i think. Word :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance:

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Derailing the thread here a bit, but is are we gonna hear some experimental stuff from you guys soon? You're so talented, and as much as I love your brostep, I'd love to see you guys trying something innovative and new, I think you could pull it off quite well

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:14 pm
by PhotonOfficial
hookjunior wrote:Here you go guys. For this growl i used fm8 and followed the same effects chain as before. Its a really short growl at the end of the phrase but its still cool i think. Word :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance:

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Damn cool. Do you think you could go into more detail about how you make your growls? Mainly what your EQ's look like and what kind of settings you use on your distortion. If you could that would be awesome! :corndance:

Thanks:)

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:05 am
by _Agu_
First even half-decent growls that i made. Needs more processing though…


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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:53 am
by 22bullets
what do u guys think of this one ?
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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:06 pm
by bouncingfish
Thought you might want to see this, this is one of the best scary monsters recreations I've heard.


Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:32 am
by LogiSpark
This is my first growl attempt, I said screw reeses for today and made this. Has a heavy effects chain

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:59 pm
by prototype0937
hookjunior wrote:Not sure if i have posted this before but here you guys go. Soundcloud

its no masterpiece but there is some good growl content in there.

this growl was made with massive (AI and Chrome) > ohmicide > crazy exaggerated EQ > ohmicide > EQ for vowel effect > compression.

no real secret to this kind of sound....
please post a tutorial bro.i would watch the shit out of that xD

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:30 pm
by OmegaMode

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:49 pm
by Vanilla Nasty
Followed some of hook's advice but changed a few things up. Link is private.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:47 pm
by OmegaMode
This is my second take at it..
I used FL Studio.

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Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:29 am
by IamDroid
So how did you make that? ^

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:25 am
by OmegaMode
IamDroid wrote:So how did you make that? ^
A shit ton of processing that i don't think was really needed... :u: but my goal was to have a vowel sound already in the waveform itself. I used GuitarRig5 using its Vowel filter (main idea IMO). I think people automate too drastically when it comes to vowels... So I kept it simple, little automation goes far. I will show you the best I can on what I did with my processing and how I captured this sound through 3 big Check points. Sooo, that being said here is what I used:

1st Checkpoint:
2 instances of Ohmicide distort the mid and high ends only
Vocodex used this to give it more of a gargling sounds but yet more natural and clean
Soundgoodizer gives it more 'umph' IMO but you can use a Sausage Fattener or a Maximizer
2 instances of EQ 2 one for getting your levels how you want them and one thats automated for a vowel " ooo " sound.
Massive 1.3.0 ( 1+2 oscillators using a saw -bend[or whatever you prefer] , pitch -24 for both and are both routed to filter 1 using the notch filter) Notch filter needs to have the cutoff at 9 o'clock and the res at the same. Automate the cutoff up to only up to 12 o'clock. Also you will want to automate the pitch for both osc 1+2 down to -24 using a macro in side of Massive USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Turn the Restart via Gate ON. And compress.

Before completing steps in Checkpoint 2 you will want to have the exact notes you want for the project your working on.

2nd Checkpoint:
I exported Checkpoint 1 as a wav and dropped it in to Kontact.
Kontact 5 or up. use only the formant filter II and play with those three knobs till you have a low 'U' and 'OOO' sound. You will be only automating the Size knob in this to make the the slight movement of the vowel sounds Again USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Add another Sausage fatterner or whatever and compress again and then export to wav.

3rd Checkpoint:
Using GuitarRig5, use the formant filter, make sure your enable the "right" or "R" on the IN button at the very top or you will have sound in only MONO. Turn the DRY/WET knob directly in the middle. Move the Sharp all the way to the right and the size all the way down to the left, and for the Talk knob you will be automating this again for the last time USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. add another Sausage Fatterner or whatever. and compress.

And there you have it.

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:31 am
by OmegaMode
Btw I will be updating quite often to get this sounding even better and using only one check point. Im sure recording the sound in side itself would work lol

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:46 am
by 22bullets
OmegaMode wrote:
IamDroid wrote:So how did you make that? ^
A shit ton of processing that i don't think was really needed... :u: but my goal was to have a vowel sound already in the waveform itself. I used GuitarRig5 using its Vowel filter (main idea IMO). I think people automate too drastically when it comes to vowels... So I kept it simple, little automation goes far. I will show you the best I can on what I did with my processing and how I captured this sound through 3 big Check points. Sooo, that being said here is what I used:

1st Checkpoint:
2 instances of Ohmicide distort the mid and high ends only
Vocodex used this to give it more of a gargling sounds but yet more natural and clean
Soundgoodizer gives it more 'umph' IMO but you can use a Sausage Fattener or a Maximizer
2 instances of EQ 2 one for getting your levels how you want them and one thats automated for a vowel " ooo " sound.
Massive 1.3.0 ( 1+2 oscillators using a saw -bend[or whatever you prefer] , pitch -24 for both and are both routed to filter 1 using the notch filter) Notch filter needs to have the cutoff at 9 o'clock and the res at the same. Automate the cutoff up to only up to 12 o'clock. Also you will want to automate the pitch for both osc 1+2 down to -24 using a macro in side of Massive USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Turn the Restart via Gate ON. And compress.

Before completing steps in Checkpoint 2 you will want to have the exact notes you want for the project your working on.

2nd Checkpoint:
I exported Checkpoint 1 as a wav and dropped it in to Kontact.
Kontact 5 or up. use only the formant filter II and play with those three knobs till you have a low 'U' and 'OOO' sound. You will be only automating the Size knob in this to make the the slight movement of the vowel sounds Again USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Add another Sausage fatterner or whatever and compress again and then export to wav.

3rd Checkpoint:
Using GuitarRig5, use the formant filter, make sure your enable the "right" or "R" on the IN button at the very top or you will have sound in only MONO. Turn the DRY/WET knob directly in the middle. Move the Sharp all the way to the right and the size all the way down to the left, and for the Talk knob you will be automating this again for the last time USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. add another Sausage Fatterner or whatever. and compress.

And there you have it.
Sick post !!!!! any chnace you could by pass the vocodex and show how it sounds ? since i dont have it cause i use ableton and i am on mac

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:11 am
by OmegaMode
22bullets wrote:
OmegaMode wrote:
IamDroid wrote:So how did you make that? ^
A shit ton of processing that i don't think was really needed... :u: but my goal was to have a vowel sound already in the waveform itself. I used GuitarRig5 using its Vowel filter (main idea IMO). I think people automate too drastically when it comes to vowels... So I kept it simple, little automation goes far. I will show you the best I can on what I did with my processing and how I captured this sound through 3 big Check points. Sooo, that being said here is what I used:

1st Checkpoint:
2 instances of Ohmicide distort the mid and high ends only
Vocodex used this to give it more of a gargling sounds but yet more natural and clean
Soundgoodizer gives it more 'umph' IMO but you can use a Sausage Fattener or a Maximizer
2 instances of EQ 2 one for getting your levels how you want them and one thats automated for a vowel " ooo " sound.
Massive 1.3.0 ( 1+2 oscillators using a saw -bend[or whatever you prefer] , pitch -24 for both and are both routed to filter 1 using the notch filter) Notch filter needs to have the cutoff at 9 o'clock and the res at the same. Automate the cutoff up to only up to 12 o'clock. Also you will want to automate the pitch for both osc 1+2 down to -24 using a macro in side of Massive USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Turn the Restart via Gate ON. And compress.

Before completing steps in Checkpoint 2 you will want to have the exact notes you want for the project your working on.

2nd Checkpoint:
I exported Checkpoint 1 as a wav and dropped it in to Kontact.
Kontact 5 or up. use only the formant filter II and play with those three knobs till you have a low 'U' and 'OOO' sound. You will be only automating the Size knob in this to make the the slight movement of the vowel sounds Again USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Add another Sausage fatterner or whatever and compress again and then export to wav.

3rd Checkpoint:
Using GuitarRig5, use the formant filter, make sure your enable the "right" or "R" on the IN button at the very top or you will have sound in only MONO. Turn the DRY/WET knob directly in the middle. Move the Sharp all the way to the right and the size all the way down to the left, and for the Talk knob you will be automating this again for the last time USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. add another Sausage Fatterner or whatever. and compress.

And there you have it.
Sick post !!!!! any chnace you could by pass the vocodex and show how it sounds ? since i dont have it cause i use ableton and i am on mac
Since I only used the vocoder as a clean up tool for the distortion, It only cuts off the messy distortion and does a sort of build up frequency giving it a clean stretched out chainsaw sound ... IMO its like using a Cutoff filter cutting off only the High end (just a tad bit) Then boost your highs afterwards.. Anything too high with distortion will kill the growl form. But like I said I will be posting updates. I will try to find an easier way to get this growl.

Btw that growl up there ^ was the first REAL growl I have ever done. Normally I like to leave these sort of things to the masters but I said Eff that on this and went for it!

Re: The Official Growl Bass Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:18 pm
by counterparty
OmegaMode wrote:
22bullets wrote:
OmegaMode wrote:
IamDroid wrote:So how did you make that? ^
A shit ton of processing that i don't think was really needed... :u: but my goal was to have a vowel sound already in the waveform itself. I used GuitarRig5 using its Vowel filter (main idea IMO). I think people automate too drastically when it comes to vowels... So I kept it simple, little automation goes far. I will show you the best I can on what I did with my processing and how I captured this sound through 3 big Check points. Sooo, that being said here is what I used:

1st Checkpoint:
2 instances of Ohmicide distort the mid and high ends only
Vocodex used this to give it more of a gargling sounds but yet more natural and clean
Soundgoodizer gives it more 'umph' IMO but you can use a Sausage Fattener or a Maximizer
2 instances of EQ 2 one for getting your levels how you want them and one thats automated for a vowel " ooo " sound.
Massive 1.3.0 ( 1+2 oscillators using a saw -bend[or whatever you prefer] , pitch -24 for both and are both routed to filter 1 using the notch filter) Notch filter needs to have the cutoff at 9 o'clock and the res at the same. Automate the cutoff up to only up to 12 o'clock. Also you will want to automate the pitch for both osc 1+2 down to -24 using a macro in side of Massive USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Turn the Restart via Gate ON. And compress.

Before completing steps in Checkpoint 2 you will want to have the exact notes you want for the project your working on.

2nd Checkpoint:
I exported Checkpoint 1 as a wav and dropped it in to Kontact.
Kontact 5 or up. use only the formant filter II and play with those three knobs till you have a low 'U' and 'OOO' sound. You will be only automating the Size knob in this to make the the slight movement of the vowel sounds Again USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. Add another Sausage fatterner or whatever and compress again and then export to wav.

3rd Checkpoint:
Using GuitarRig5, use the formant filter, make sure your enable the "right" or "R" on the IN button at the very top or you will have sound in only MONO. Turn the DRY/WET knob directly in the middle. Move the Sharp all the way to the right and the size all the way down to the left, and for the Talk knob you will be automating this again for the last time USE ONLY SLIGHTLY. add another Sausage Fatterner or whatever. and compress.

And there you have it.
Sick post !!!!! any chnace you could by pass the vocodex and show how it sounds ? since i dont have it cause i use ableton and i am on mac
Since I only used the vocoder as a clean up tool for the distortion, It only cuts off the messy distortion and does a sort of build up frequency giving it a clean stretched out chainsaw sound ... IMO its like using a Cutoff filter cutting off only the High end (just a tad bit) Then boost your highs afterwards.. Anything too high with distortion will kill the growl form. But like I said I will be posting updates. I will try to find an easier way to get this growl.

Btw that growl up there ^ was the first REAL growl I have ever done. Normally I like to leave these sort of things to the masters but I said Eff that on this and went for it!
Really interesting... I've never used Guitar Rig's formant tool. Would you mind reposting the growl sample? Soundcloud is telling me the track isn't available but I would love to listen to see what you came up with :4: