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Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:39 am
by cheshirebeats
Huts wrote:i'd be interested in seeing what you guys who championed guys like downlink, datsik, boregore etc would actually ask. aside from 'what synth, effects chain do you use to make robots?'
How about... All the same things that get asked in any other Q&A?....
hurrr durrrr

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:37 am
by Talált
when did KOAN sound become brostep OR complextro??

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:53 am
by Sonika
KOAN Sound is definitely bro

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:35 am
by pkay
Culprate/Koan/kasket have always been identified as glitch oriented/tear out but to be honest theyre always all over the place in a good way. I generally just refer to them as heavier dubstep as they're a bit too intelligent in design to be just bro

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:38 am
by Huts
pkay wrote:Culprate/Koan/kasket have always been identified as glitch oriented/tear out but to be honest theyre always all over the place in a good way. I generally just refer to them as heavier dubstep as they're a bit too intelligent in design to be just bro
well put

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:48 am
by eldoogle
Let's do it.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:13 am
by Sonika
Please do Asa if you can

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:28 pm
by AxeD
Marzz wrote:
pkay wrote:I think a lot of people would be interested in hearing a q and a with a lot of the top tier 'heavier' artists

KOAN, Culprate, Asa, etc are all using very innovative techniques that a lot of people could learn from and this win's question.

Infant guarantee KOAN Sound but we go way back and can at least relay the message. I managed Culprate for years and am still great friends with him and know his new manager and can make it happen if he's up for it. Just let me know

Also good friends with Kasket and Asa if those are of any interest
KOAN or Culprate would be great.
Asa's great too.
But remember the question was, would a bro/complextro q&a be welcomed. Expected answer: yes / Correct answer: no, I'll
find out how to resample things to shit and sound horrible myself.
I'd like to hear from Koan sound too, but why make a different section just because he makes heavier music.

Never knew you manage(d) artists though, thats cool. I'd definitely read a Culprate q&a.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:50 pm
by jobromedia
I voted yes since Skrillex pretty much does brostep / complextro can't I see any negative coming out from such a forum.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:07 am
by Attila
AxeD wrote:
Marzz wrote:
pkay wrote:I think a lot of people would be interested in hearing a q and a with a lot of the top tier 'heavier' artists

KOAN, Culprate, Asa, etc are all using very innovative techniques that a lot of people could learn from and this win's question.

Infant guarantee KOAN Sound but we go way back and can at least relay the message. I managed Culprate for years and am still great friends with him and know his new manager and can make it happen if he's up for it. Just let me know

Also good friends with Kasket and Asa if those are of any interest
KOAN or Culprate would be great.
Asa's great too.
But remember the question was, would a bro/complextro q&a be welcomed. Expected answer: yes / Correct answer: no, I'll
find out how to resample things to shit and sound horrible myself.
I'd like to hear from Koan sound too, but why make a different section just because he makes heavier music.

Never knew you manage(d) artists though, thats cool. I'd definitely read a Culprate q&a.
I think when no gets 6% of the votes its safe to say its not the right answer. And of course heavier music should get its own section. You dont see people discussing The Stray Cats and Opeth in the same thread.

I still wouldn't lump together bro and complextro though. Excision and Porter Robinson are a world apart.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:25 am
by mthrfnk
Someone mention Asa? Yes please :P

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:30 am
by hookey
Skrillex would be awesome, to be honest.

When it comes to bro stuff, he is the best. Still no one comes close to the midrange bass work done in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. It sounds huge, harsh, loud and at the same time it's well produced and has plenty of sub-bass too. No one can re-create that sound so far. Would love to hear a more detailed explaination on how the hell he pulled that one out, to the point there are conspiracies out there saying that record was ghost produced by someone at mau5trap.

Well I think thats nonsense and it's the guy alone at work, but I would like to know how he got that good at FM synthesis alone and how he came up with that sound. If you have tried yourself, you'll know it CANT be simple "experimentation" because you keep doing circles and never getting results. You always get a really cheap sounding version of that (like the guys on Youtube). You gotta have pretty good notions on what you are doing with FM synthesis to tweak around and come up that sound.

Im not really interested in other bro artists because their midranges sound way too much like default Massive work.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:04 am
by Hircine
hookey wrote:Skrillex would be awesome, to be honest.

When it comes to bro stuff, he is the best. Still no one comes close to the midrange bass work done in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. It sounds huge, harsh, loud and at the same time it's well produced and has plenty of sub-bass too. No one can re-create that sound so far. Would love to hear a more detailed explaination on how the hell he pulled that one out, to the point there are conspiracies out there saying that record was ghost produced by someone at mau5trap.

Well I think thats nonsense and it's the guy alone at work, but I would like to know how he got that good at FM synthesis alone and how he came up with that sound. If you have tried yourself, you'll know it CANT be simple "experimentation" because you keep doing circles and never getting results. You always get a really cheap sounding version of that (like the guys on Youtube). You gotta have pretty good notions on what you are doing with FM synthesis to tweak around and come up that sound.

Im not really interested in other bro artists because their midranges sound way too much like default Massive work.
datsik and filthzilla use the same formant freqshift fm bass, pm them.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:07 am
by pkay
It's not a matter of no one can it's the people who can choose not to.

Skrillexs greatest asset is experience in a recording studio in rock music. Most dubstep producers are clueless about their frequencies and mastering. Some of the better producers have tunes leaving their laptop at near release quality

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:20 am
by Sonika
mthrfnk wrote:Someone mention Asa? Yes please :P

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:30 am
by Huts
hookey wrote:Skrillex would be awesome, to be honest.

When it comes to bro stuff, he is the best. Still no one comes close to the midrange bass work done in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. It sounds huge, harsh, loud and at the same time it's well produced and has plenty of sub-bass too. No one can re-create that sound so far. Would love to hear a more detailed explaination on how the hell he pulled that one out, to the point there are conspiracies out there saying that record was ghost produced by someone at mau5trap.

Well I think thats nonsense and it's the guy alone at work, but I would like to know how he got that good at FM synthesis alone and how he came up with that sound. If you have tried yourself, you'll know it CANT be simple "experimentation" because you keep doing circles and never getting results. You always get a really cheap sounding version of that (like the guys on Youtube). You gotta have pretty good notions on what you are doing with FM synthesis to tweak around and come up that sound.

Im not really interested in other bro artists because their midranges sound way too much like default Massive work.
how do you think he came upon those sounds? shot in the dark here but i'll go with experimenting until he came to something he liked. These guys have talked about how they make their sounds, there are endless tutorials, are you guys looking for patches or what? This whole style of music is based around the midrange they aren't going to give away the only thing that separates them from the horde of people trying to make the same sound.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:51 am
by Sonika
^yeah and anyways, if you're going for a bro producer for sound design, KOAN Sound's midranges are way more complex and mature than skrillex's

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:24 am
by Attila
Huts wrote:
hookey wrote:Skrillex would be awesome, to be honest.

When it comes to bro stuff, he is the best. Still no one comes close to the midrange bass work done in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. It sounds huge, harsh, loud and at the same time it's well produced and has plenty of sub-bass too. No one can re-create that sound so far. Would love to hear a more detailed explaination on how the hell he pulled that one out, to the point there are conspiracies out there saying that record was ghost produced by someone at mau5trap.

Well I think thats nonsense and it's the guy alone at work, but I would like to know how he got that good at FM synthesis alone and how he came up with that sound. If you have tried yourself, you'll know it CANT be simple "experimentation" because you keep doing circles and never getting results. You always get a really cheap sounding version of that (like the guys on Youtube). You gotta have pretty good notions on what you are doing with FM synthesis to tweak around and come up that sound.

Im not really interested in other bro artists because their midranges sound way too much like default Massive work.
how do you think he came upon those sounds? shot in the dark here but i'll go with experimenting until he came to something he liked. These guys have talked about how they make their sounds, there are endless tutorials, are you guys looking for patches or what? This whole style of music is based around the midrange they aren't going to give away the only thing that separates them from the horde of people trying to make the same sound.
You know a lot of people say that, "there's tutorials on YouTube", but seriously no ones gotten anywhere near explaining what the hells going on in that SMANS drop. Dan Larssen from Loopmasters got really close in sound, but of course he refuses to explain what's happening. From the feel of it though, I think there's more sampling going on than people think. Like its half warped samples and half synths. More traditional film sfx design stuff, especially after hearing from sonny that he warps animal noises in his songs. Kinda off topic but whatever.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:35 am
by wormcode
Huts wrote:
hookey wrote:Skrillex would be awesome, to be honest.

When it comes to bro stuff, he is the best. Still no one comes close to the midrange bass work done in Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites. It sounds huge, harsh, loud and at the same time it's well produced and has plenty of sub-bass too. No one can re-create that sound so far. Would love to hear a more detailed explaination on how the hell he pulled that one out, to the point there are conspiracies out there saying that record was ghost produced by someone at mau5trap.

Well I think thats nonsense and it's the guy alone at work, but I would like to know how he got that good at FM synthesis alone and how he came up with that sound. If you have tried yourself, you'll know it CANT be simple "experimentation" because you keep doing circles and never getting results. You always get a really cheap sounding version of that (like the guys on Youtube). You gotta have pretty good notions on what you are doing with FM synthesis to tweak around and come up that sound.

Im not really interested in other bro artists because their midranges sound way too much like default Massive work.
how do you think he came upon those sounds? shot in the dark here but i'll go with experimenting until he came to something he liked. These guys have talked about how they make their sounds, there are endless tutorials, are you guys looking for patches or what? This whole style of music is based around the midrange they aren't going to give away the only thing that separates them from the horde of people trying to make the same sound.
Yeah experimenting, and it would also explain why he said he couldn't make those sounds again after his stuff got stolen.

Re: Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and wh

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:08 am
by Autism
KOAN Sound fo sho! :corndance:
Sonika wrote:^yeah and anyways, if you're going for a bro producer for sound design, KOAN Sound's midranges are way more complex and mature than skrillex's
Meh... I wouldn't say that. KOAN are more reese oriented, but that doesn't make the midrange more complex?