The level these guys will go to maintain a fantasy...
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:52 am
by nobody
Did any of you guys watch the YouTube videos that recently went viral where young white guys went to black areas (am I allowed to say 'black areas'?) and either farted in people faces when they were doing their shoelaces or verbally provoked people before saying 'it's just a prank, bro!'. A lot of the times the white kids got punched in the face very hard.
Are the white kids victims?
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:56 am
by nobody
oh and I'm against most of these police shootings, obviously, I think its horrendous. But not when people approach police in that way, wielding weapons, defending that type of behaviour is stupid.
Also, if the police had tazed him or shot him in the leg or whatever it was you suggested, you'd be sat posting on the forum about how cruel they are for that and they should have just spoken to him to calm him down or restrained him or something lol, you've already made your minds up that police using violence as a tool for self defence is wrong. You're wrong.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:57 am
by wub
nobody wrote:Are the white kids victims?
No, they're just retarded.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:58 am
by nobody
wub wrote:
nobody wrote:Are the white kids victims?
No, they're just retarded.
Just like the idiot who approached police, shouting, with a knife in his hand.
Where do you stand on this particular case, wub?
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:00 am
by wub
You can't compare a mentally ill man brandishing a knife with a bunch of frat boy wankers trying to make a 'prank' video.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:04 am
by nobody
Same concept, like going and flicking the school bully, who's 5 years older than you's nose in the playground, then standing there.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:05 am
by nowaysj
Unarmed white kid shot by black cop. Gonna be a 24 hour media blitz. Obama is going to release a statement. White activists are going to show up and rally the troops. Protesters are going to be shipped in. White people are going to smash up the neighborhood. Black people are encouraged to leave the area for their own safety.
No just kidding. Nobody gives a fuck.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:50 am
by bennyfroobs
yeah its not the same concept at all man
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:35 pm
by OGLemon
I just got remembered that post G made where he talked about individuality and collectivity and how they relate to race. Basically he said that whites where more prone to individuality because whites (in America) as a group haven't gone through things such as slavery and limited rights. Blacks on the other hand went through slavery, Jim Crow laws, etc. This collective hardship promoted group unity, without unity Blacks would just continue to be marginalized.
I think this may play a role into the response by white people when a white person is murdered vs the response by black people when a black person is murdered. Not saying that both races can't feeling outrage or empathy when a person of another ethnic group is killed, just in general.
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:55 pm
by hubb
What we've learned:
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Bjørk > Jesus
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:00 pm
by hubb
But dear terpiderp
You've ruined your argument in a technical sence, because you can't use violence as a tool, Violence as a concept is reactionairy and in that case would mean the police is at fault. It's controlled force or defending from a group perspective.
It's not self defence when it's a police officer and in that way, won't adhere to the laws of self defence or even the logic of self defence. Officers has to transcend that like Loxy transcended snares
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:24 pm
by DrGatineau
nowaysj wrote:Jags you're really a jagoff if you think unemployment is at 6%. Our unemployment rate sucks. It sucks so bad that they stopped counting unemployed people.
are you referring to labor force participation? this is nothing new. they haven't "stopped" counting unemployed people. they've been keeping track of labor force participation since at least the 1940s. http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CIVPART
nobody wrote:
jags wrote:and he wasn't shouting "crazy shit". The only thing he said was "shoot me, shoot me now".
Not crazy at all, sorry!
poor jags
yeah, "shoot me" is really not crazy. it makes sense. it's not word salad. it's not giberish. it's a sane thing to say.
why am i poor?
nobody wrote:Also, if the police had tazed him or shot him in the leg or whatever it was you suggested, you'd be sat posting on the forum about how cruel they are for that and they should have just spoken to him to calm him down or restrained him or something lol, you've already made your minds up that police using violence as a tool for self defence is wrong. You're wrong.
are you kidding me? i've been advocating this whole time for non-lethal force. if they shot him in the leg that would have made me very happy. i care most about losing lives. You can always heal a wound or amputate a limb if you have to, but you can't bring someone back from the grave....
nowaysj wrote:
Unarmed white kid shot by black cop. Gonna be a 24 hour media blitz. Obama is going to release a statement. White activists are going to show up and rally the troops. Protesters are going to be shipped in. White people are going to smash up the neighborhood. Black people are encouraged to leave the area for their own safety.
No just kidding. Nobody gives a fuck.
While I can't really tell exactly what happened from that video, what I presume happened is that the kid had headphones on and couldn't hear the cops' orders, so he was unable to follow them, so they killed him, even though he was not posing a threat and was unarmed. If so then I think that's just as outrageous. It might not be pushed by the conservative American media (and that includes NBC, NYT, WaPo, etc imo - they're all conservative, in that they don't want change and they only allow discourse to happen in a 2 inch x 4 inch box) because it won't result in the further disenfranchisement of minorities, but if that's what happened, I give a fuck, and I think it's just as terrible if not more so than the MB case (depending on the facts that come out).
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:36 pm
by dickman69
i appreciate the use of jagoff in this thread
pittsburgh approval
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:49 pm
by OGLemon
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:45 pm
by DrGatineau
rayman612 wrote:i appreciate the use of jagoff in this thread
pittsburgh approval
feel'n the luv m8
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:48 am
by bennyfroobs
nowaysj wrote:
Unarmed white kid shot by black cop. Gonna be a 24 hour media blitz. Obama is going to release a statement. White activists are going to show up and rally the troops. Protesters are going to be shipped in. White people are going to smash up the neighborhood. Black people are encouraged to leave the area for their own safety.
No just kidding. Nobody gives a fuck.
wtf thats crazy
interesting video
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:38 am
by nobody
hubb wrote:But dear terpiderp
You've ruined your argument in a technical sence, because you can't use violence as a tool, Violence as a concept is reactionairy and in that case would mean the police is at fault. It's controlled force or defending from a group perspective.
It's not self defence when it's a police officer and in that way, won't adhere to the laws of self defence or even the logic of self defence. Officers has to transcend that like Loxy transcended snares
I don't know where to begin with this post
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:41 am
by nousd
yeah
has Loxy really transcended snares?
Re: Ferguson riots
Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:42 am
by nobody
jags wrote:
yeah, "shoot me" is really not crazy. it makes sense. it's not word salad. it's not giberish. it's a sane thing to say.
It is when you have a knife in your hand and you are approaching people with big shooty guns, it is not a sane thing to say at all! It's fucking stupid, Darwin would be happy that that idiot is gone, I hope he didn't breed when he was alive.