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Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:58 pm
by Mad_EP
I love Binaural recordings... but in order to make use of the recording - you HAVE to listen on headphones.

If you listen back on speakers - you get bleed that defeats the purpose of the binaural recording. You can still get cool effects from such... but if you playback on speakers, you aren't really getting the binaural effect.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:03 pm
by Ongelegen
Mad EP wrote:I love Binaural recordings... but in order to make use of the recording - you HAVE to listen on headphones.

If you listen back on speakers - you get bleed that defeats the purpose of the binaural recording. You can still get cool effects from such... but if you playback on speakers, you aren't really getting the binaural effect.
Exactly, headphones have fulll left/right separation :)

BTW, Deadly keep us posted on your rig, I'm very interested in the results :W:

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:04 am
by therapist
Mad EP wrote:I love Binaural recordings... but in order to make use of the recording - you HAVE to listen on headphones.

If you listen back on speakers - you get bleed that defeats the purpose of the binaural recording. You can still get cool effects from such... but if you playback on speakers, you aren't really getting the binaural effect.
Put them directly either side of your head (like ridiculous phones) and these things sound crazy. It's just that speakers aren't (typically) 180* apart I guess.

That's a nice recording EX. The movement is very clear and that middle section is definitely behind the head. I'm not sure how that even works, but if your mics aren't dead on 180* it would create some difference between front and back I suppose.

I'm not sure about the front recording. A/B between the front and back, does it sound like the paper is ever in front of you? Anyway, as you say it may technically not be binaural but it's definitely cool... to a nerd.

Good stuff.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:23 am
by RmoniK
Why could we simulate it? If we can simulate reverb so well nowadays it should be a piece of cake. after all, it's still just a stereo channel.

Some reverbs are created by playing whitenoise in a hall and recording it in different places, then forming this into an algorithm. i guess they could do something similar.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:16 am
by spire
Because binaural is about isolation. Reverb is adding to it. If you catch my drift. You would have to subtract information from each channel which is as good as impossible. It'd be like trying to take a mono recording and removing sounds that were closer or farther from the mic, which wouldnt exactly work.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:48 am
by Ongelegen
therapist wrote:That's a nice recording EX. The movement is very clear and that middle section is definitely behind the head. I'm not sure how that even works, but if your mics aren't dead on 180* it would create some difference between front and back I suppose.

I'm not sure about the front recording. A/B between the front and back, does it sound like the paper is ever in front of you? Anyway, as you say it may technically not be binaural but it's definitely cool... to a nerd.

Good stuff.
Thanks was just a real quick demo, yeah obviosuly they are not 180* to the millimeter, but human heads aren't symmetrical to the millimeter either ;-) Yeah I found that too about A/B-ing, but I guess because its moving your brain does also some work.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:21 pm
by Soiree
Image

lots of sick vinyl too.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:26 pm
by Sonika
^what turntables are those?

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:31 pm
by deadly_habit
technic 1210s by the look of em

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:41 pm
by AxeD
Sonika wrote:^what turntables are those?
:)

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:06 pm
by wub
Sonika wrote:^what turntables are those?
:facepalm:

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:11 pm
by Sonika
wub wrote:
Sonika wrote:^what turntables are those?
:facepalm:
why the fuck is this such a big deal wub? I don't know much at all about turntables and models etc, so I was asking. You don't need to get so uptight and upset

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:14 pm
by wub
Nice edit to focus purely on my response ;)



Look, imagine this was a forum about films, and someone posted a picture of Steve McQueen, and someone else asked who it was. Same dealio.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:16 pm
by Sonika
wub wrote: Look, imagine this was a forum about films, and someone posted a picture of Steve McQueen, and someone else asked who it was. Same dealio.

I don't know much about turntables, I'm trying to learn more about them, I ask a question about one, and I get a cuntish response from you is all.

@deadly habit - thank you for the actual answer

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:20 pm
by wub
The facepalm emoticon is not a cuntish reponse :lol:

And FWIW, if those are Technics they'll be 1200s not 1210s, the mixer looks like a DJM600 (though could be a 500), the CD player is a CDJ800 and the headphones are Sony MDR-v700s.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:21 pm
by Soiree
enough is enough.
I can't tell if Sonika is joking most the time, because it's just too fucking pathetic to be real.

sometimes sacrifices have to be made.
:i:

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:22 pm
by hudson
Sonika wrote:those are big cds lol

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:20 pm
by docrasta
so this is relevant to the discussion, even though you guys are fuckin off and what not.

i only produce. i have dj friends who spin my stuff, mainly one guy at this point, but i am working on that.
i need to get into djing eventually and put some local nights together, to get my tunes out there. my friend use vinyl ( i am 30, hes the same, haha) and he also has traktor scratch. the traktor is a nice setup but it seems a bit glitchy and unstable. what advice would you guys give on some gear to get up and running with new school ones and twos? curious what the 'industry standard' or scene standard is over there....thanks boys...

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:34 pm
by Mehlovich
docrasta wrote:so this is relevant to the discussion, even though you guys are fuckin off and what not.

i only produce. i have dj friends who spin my stuff, mainly one guy at this point, but i am working on that.
i need to get into djing eventually and put some local nights together, to get my tunes out there. my friend use vinyl ( i am 30, hes the same, haha) and he also has traktor scratch. the traktor is a nice setup but it seems a bit glitchy and unstable. what advice would you guys give on some gear to get up and running with new school ones and twos? curious what the 'industry standard' or scene standard is over there....thanks boys...
1210s or 1200s and a mixer and some records.

Re: the classic "take a photo of your setup" thread

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:39 pm
by Mad_EP
wub wrote:The facepalm emoticon is not a cuntish reponse :lol:

And FWIW, if those are Technics they'll be 1200s not 1210s, the mixer looks like a DJM600 (though could be a 500), the CD player is a CDJ800 and the headphones are Sony MDR-v700s.
And the black music stand holding up pictures, vinyl & the Aphex CD in the background is most likely a Manhasset.