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How would go about making the talking bass?

Knife Party consists of Rob Swire and one of his bandmates from Pendulum.

Thank You in advance

Cadaver wrote:How would go about making the talking bass, thank you in advance.

what daw are you using?

Reason.....or Ableton/Cubase

Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

Cadaver wrote:Reason.....or Ableton/Cubase

In reason, use maelstorm. Set oscillators A and B to "throat". Turn the motion all the way down on both of them. Then turn the shift down on both as well (this will take it from a high wimpy voice to closer to a growl). Then make a 2 min patch trying out different automations of the "index"-> the index is what moves through the sample and what gives it the moving vocal sound as opposed to 1 static sound. I then sent it to the vocoder, and then to scream and added some light reverb. Then I bounced it out, imported it into FL and added more eq and effects to taste. And Finally I layered it with a dedicated sub.
An example is in this tune at 0:41
Soundcloud
I know it sounds shit compared to the song in question, but it's still a decent growl imo. If you have any other questions or are interested in the combinator patch, private message me.

dj Cappa wrote:

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

Any other suggestions guys?

just posted one.

cmgoodman1226 wrote:

Cadaver wrote:Reason.....or Ableton/Cubase

In reason, use maelstorm. Set oscillators A and B to "throat". Turn the motion all the way down on both of them. Then turn the shift down on both as well (this will take it from a high wimpy voice to closer to a growl). Then make a 2 min patch trying out different automations of the "index"-> the index is what moves through the sample and what gives it the moving vocal sound as opposed to 1 static sound. I then sent it to the vocoder, and then to scream and added some light reverb. Then I bounced it out, imported it into FL and added more eq and effects to taste. And Finally I layered it with a dedicated sub.
An example is in this tune at 0:41
Soundcloud
I know it sounds shit compared to the song in question, but it's still a decent growl imo. If you have any other questions or are interested in the combinator patch, private message me.

It's a growl, but not the one I am looking for, this one is idk....it's probably made using a technique, because a lot of producers use it.

Look up the how to sound like skrillex thread, and read through it. Then, go experiment with the techniques in your daw, and you should get close after some trying

Cadaver wrote:

dj Cappa wrote:

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

Any other suggestions guys?

Trust me, this works I'm currently working on a song that uses it, try it out if now wait a few days to hear the results of it

I need to know how to get this shit down.

Talking about the bass hit. Driving me insane wasting hours trying to work it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJX72gEEo68

Anyone know where I can find a vintage/industrial trumpet kinda sound like this one at the very start?

Safe.

dj Cappa wrote:

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

How do you add saturation to a sound? Is that like resonance on a filter?

Filthzilla wrote:

dj Cappa wrote:

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

How do you add saturation to a sound? Is that like resonance on a filter?

Saturation distortion I think they mean.

Open ur distortion unit of choice and set it to saturate.

I'd be real intersted in how he makes the main noise that drops in 0.50. So so sick. I think it's just FM synthesis on a square wave, but can't come anywhere close to replicating it. Thanks.

Filthzilla wrote:

Anyone know where I can find a vintage/industrial trumpet kinda sound like this one at the very start?

Safe.

check out pharoahe monch - simon says. i think its that sample but over processesed. not sure how to re-create.

serox wrote:

Filthzilla wrote:

dj Cappa wrote:

Cadaver wrote:

blinkesko wrote:Knife Party are on ableton. Just saying

Lol yeah, but I am intrested in the sound design, how would you go about recreating the talking bass sound?

Make a reese bass, take 2 notch filters and automate them at different speeds, ex. 1/2 and 1, add a TON of saturation and distortion, then bounce about a 4 second clip and slice it up to very short bursts, then find two that sound like vowels Sorry its a bit broad of an explication, but this is the technique that could be used to make it

How do you add saturation to a sound? Is that like resonance on a filter?

Saturation distortion I think they mean.

Open ur distortion unit of choice and set it to saturate.

Should have clarified, yea it is saturation distortion, eg: a sine shaper, I'm just used to using ableton's unit which is called a saturator but it's the same as saturation distortion. It might be called harmonic distortion depending on what vst you have.

Filthzilla wrote:

Anyone know where I can find a vintage/industrial trumpet kinda sound like this one at the very start?

Safe.

This sounds like a sample rather than an instrument. But you should be able to come up with a same or similar sound using an FM synth of your choice. I'd do it in Sytrus being an FL user. Then EQ it to cut out the bass and treble. (Panoramic EQ 2 in FLS has an "old telephone" preset or some such, would make an ordinary trumpet sound quite a bit like that sample.)