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Necro would fuck them both up

"Gangsta" is just a subject matter. How someone tackles it depends on their level of skill. Crooked I is doper than most and he's as gangsta as it gets.

capo ultra wrote:

hugh wrote:Usually cos they have no education and only know about 8 different words since the thesaurus is the first book most these motherfuckers pick up.

So? Shouldn't all demographics be represented in music? A great deal of people live the life that these artists rap about. Some intelligent, educated, blessed with an easy life rapper isn't going to speak for them.

hugh wrote:I guess what I am trying to say is that if you care this much about gangsta rap you need to get a fucking grip, since it's the very worst part of the genre. Even horrorcore rap is way better.

what you really mean is you have no connection to gangsta rap so it doesn't appeal to you personally, it doesn't mean it's shit

With regards to the first point, that's not what I am even saying and I don't think anybody is saying that so I don't really understand what point you are trying to make here...

But point me towards some good modern gangster rap that isn't just full of outdated cliches about bitches and money and laced heavily with bigoted views that you wouldn't be embarassed to listen to in public then yeah I'll let it fly.
But either way I think trying to treat the whole thing with this air of cultural resonance is a bit voyeuristic when there is practically no culturual benefit from the lifestyle these pro-gangster rappers propagate and embellish. If a rapper on the other hand, wants to address some proper issues about where he grew up, what it was like and what he thinks needs to be done or even if he just wants to have a go about it, that's fine.
But to say "oh you don't have a direct relationship to that music so thats why you don't like it" is definitely not true and is more of a disarming tactic than actually trying to talk about it the issue. I don't think I directly related to 99% of the music I listen to. How can a person related to a drum and bass tune or a track from the latest Bonobo album? We are talking about the appreciation of sound and the intelligence and practicality of any lyrical content, not lifestyles backgrounds or heterogeny.

For me, if a rap tune has a good beat, the lyrics are delivered well and have some kind of good lyrical/percussive quality then I am all for it. If it sounds shit and it instantly conjurs up the image of some angry rapper in the studio spitting bars about jacking cars and his latest grill then it's not for me. There's just no thought, no greater context, heck, the images it conjures up rarely even makes it fun.

anyway I don't even know what the fuck we are talking about now

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epochalypso wrote:

it had to be said

why should music be culturally beneficially Hugh?

It just seems like you are dismissing music as purile and shit just because you don't personally connect with it, there is no point in me pointing you towards something that I think you will like because odds are you won't like it, that's the beauty of music. I don't rate much of the stuff you are posting in this thread but that doesn't mean that it's crap, it's just not for me.

I'm not trying to say you can't connect with the streets or anything , it's just what you might see as stereotypical someone else sees as truth, and vice versa

everything is subjective, nothing is concrete

tl;dr it's just like your opinion man

ROLEXES TIMEXEZZEZ

capo ultra wrote:why should music be culturally beneficially Hugh?

Gotta agree with this, this tune has literally no cultural benefit at all, but I love it:

epochalypso wrote:Drake is bullshit

I was a bit devastated when he "remixed" Wildfire by Sbtrkt

MrAural wrote:

epochalypso wrote:Drake is bullshit

Chino wankers started copying his "YOLO" thing...

Yet these chino wankers don't know Suicide Silence popularized it first...

On google if you search "Suicide Silence yolo s" the search will say "did suicide silence started yolo"

cmgoodman1226 wrote:

epochalypso wrote:

it had to be said

While we're at it then...

capo ultra wrote:
tl;dr it's just like your opinion man

suicide silence is bullshit as well.

Drake releasing a Aaliyah album. I love Aaliyah so I am trying to be positive about it.

Ketamine and Pkay have chatted more shit in this thread than most of the rappers under discussion.

x gon give it to em

just re-reading this thread for lulz

just re-reading this thread for lulz

lol wrong thread m8s