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http://youtu.be/cyiB_rkob8o

So I'm trying to replicate this sound with pretty much no luck. It starts at 2:49 in the video. There's been a ton of discussion about KTN's main growl but I haven't seen this one brought up, and IMO it's one of the craziest sounds I've ever heard. Any ideas?

A while ago I came across some really close KTN massive patches.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22378078/KTN%20Patches.rar

Credit goes to Impresario and the image line forums.

Frequency shifting, half dry half wet, watch a spectrum analyzer when you adjust the pitch of the shifter and make it so it pitches the sound down so that you have a fundamental down one octave from the original sound.

loudness has nothing to do with it being a sub bass, it's all about the frequencies

ephyks wrote:A while ago I came across some really close KTN massive patches.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22378078/KTN%20Patches.rar

Credit goes to the fine minds over on the image line forums.

I made those they were posted in the Growl Bass thread a few weeks ago. I hope you liked them!

EDIT: I hope people aren't claiming false credit over there, but eh, whatever.

If you listen, you can hear the fundamental and another partial two harmonics up. Easiest way to recreate this is with Absynth (which I almost always use for sub bass)



In the mix, and with a little saturation/distortion on your master (which you should be doing IMO), it'll sound spot on.

Impresario wrote:

ephyks wrote:A while ago I came across some really close KTN massive patches.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22378078/KTN%20Patches.rar

Credit goes to the fine minds over on the image line forums.

I made those they were posted in the Growl Bass thread a few weeks ago. I hope you liked them!

EDIT: I hope people aren't claiming false credit over there, but eh, whatever.

Oh, sorry man. I think only one of those patches came from image line. I do remember getting a few of the other ones from over here.

Also, yeah man, they are fucking wicked.

thanks for the replys they really help

claudedefaren wrote:In the mix, and with a little saturation/distortion on your master (which you should be doing IMO), it'll sound spot on.

lol WUT?

Read the Ozone Mastering Guide.

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=250521

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=264017

Two threads OP should've searched for.

KTN and Feed Me are 2 of the best in the game. Amazing sound designers.

skimpi wrote:

claudedefaren wrote:In the mix, and with a little saturation/distortion on your master (which you should be doing IMO), it'll sound spot on.

lol WUT?

Actually, tape distortion and saturation are extremely valuable in mastering.

arktrix wrote:http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=250521

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=264017

Two threads OP should've searched for.

I think you might be fully retarded.

PhotonOfficial wrote:

skimpi wrote:

claudedefaren wrote:In the mix, and with a little saturation/distortion on your master (which you should be doing IMO), it'll sound spot on.

lol WUT?

Actually, tape distortion and saturation are extremely valuable in mastering.

yeah but like, id have thought for a mastering engineer, or if you are doing it yourself, atleast bounce a clean version. I wouldnt distort the master though unless I had some good out of the box shit. Its certainly not something I would advise someone to put on their master

skimpi wrote:

PhotonOfficial wrote:

skimpi wrote:

claudedefaren wrote:In the mix, and with a little saturation/distortion on your master (which you should be doing IMO), it'll sound spot on.

lol WUT?

Actually, tape distortion and saturation are extremely valuable in mastering.

yeah but like, id have thought for a mastering engineer, or if you are doing it yourself, atleast bounce a clean version. I wouldnt distort the master though unless I had some good out of the box shit. Its certainly not something I would advise someone to put on their master

Lots of people put saturation on the master, be it in the form of analogue gear, tape emulation or simple exciters to name a few. It's not distortion per-se, just tasteful colouring.

yee i mean i kinda flipped too when I read that post...but...if you've ever worked on a nice analog desk or something...running a mix in the red on the master channel can be desirable in some cases.

edit: that's distortion, but not like most people think of it.

yeah but like, thats summat that you would want, id drive a premaster into a desk, or onto tape or summat, but I wouldnt slap a distortion plugin on the master output of my DAW lol

However you go about it is fine with me, but that tune definitely has an overall saturated character

For some reason, whenever I go to make a track, my song tends to sound empty. Like it needs something more to it. For instance, in my song Crush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO3WiZZMk7g

I just think the Bass Bomb is too empty. I'll layer a sub and try different basses but layering just makes it muddy. I've EQ'd for hours trying to get layering to work, and it just doesn't seem to work (I successfully layer the sub). I've tried adding in backing instruments but it doesn't seem to work. Should I try distorting my bass? Maybe add in a vocal loop?