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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:26 am

Damn, everywhere I'm looking they're like $400 to $500 new

EDIT: And that's the way to go SunkLo, steal the gear from right under their noses. Mwauhahaha

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:56 am

Yeah, I bought from sweatwater. I'm certain not more than 350, but i thought 250.

Hey how did you do that looping effect, that like zips at the end of the song? Some kind of looper?
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:01 am

I just picked a few weird vocal joints out of my library and loaded them into a sampler with a delay after them set to a repitch setting. Then I mapped a knob to the delay time and then played the track and kind of winged launching the samples with one hand and fucking about with the delay time using the other. I do this quite a bit.

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:17 am

Cool, it sounds like a looper effect on the 404. It is actually smoother on ableton. But it's all good.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:20 am

How are the onboard fx? from what I've seen online they're quite good

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:45 am

Well, they have character, that is the most important thing. They will be frustrating. They will be dark and slushy. But that is what we like. The compressor is pretty, shit, totally awesome. The old 404's vinyl sim is supposed to be dope. I think they kind of nerfed it on the sx.

The thing that is the hardest is the lack of a high pass filter. You know how fast mud builds up, There are things you can do, work arounds, but from like the spoiled vantage of computer production, I want a high pass for ever pad :)

Also, I heard it said that the 404sx fx are out of the Fantom.

Personally, I like them. I use the 404 just as an fx unit sometimes.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:49 am

That would be interesting if they were out of the fantom, I'm gonna inquire on google about that. That does kind of bum me out about the highpass filter though, especially because I highpass everything, even if I know it doesn't technically need it I'll still highpass it just to be safe. But if there's a work-around I guess it's alright, I'm downloading the manual now and I'm gonna give it a read.

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:50 am

Yeah, there is a filter, but is a low pass. There is an fx called isolation, it is like a three band eq, just cut the lows.

OR, eq on the way in. I've got a patchbay, so will occassionally sample through a preamp, comp and eq. Just to pull the mud, knowing that it will stack up later. But I don't always do that.

One of the good things about the limited polyphony - you actually can't stack that many samples on top of each other. When resampling, you can only play two simultaneous stereo samples. That is pretty limiting. I suggest working in mono as much as you can. Or, just do a lot of layering. Like record passes playing one sample layer in at a time.

You'll see dude.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:02 am

Yeah, I'm so hyped dude. I'm probably going to use it in conjunction with my computer a good bit though. I'm trying to pick up a usb mixer with RCA in and out so I can run ableton and record patterns into there so If a beat really needs that extra something I can fuck with em in there. Kind of a best of both worlds thing.

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:15 am

Uhm, I say I'm gonna do that. And sometimes I do...haha but I'm stupid, don't do it much. I do start shit in the 404 all the time though. Maybe I should just wire up the 404 to that patchbay... I've actually been using it my desk a lot lately. Would be easier just to send stuff to it that way. I keep the 404 loose, and just run it into my pre, and then into audio/io, and just run whatever through the pre into the 404.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by wub » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:20 am

zosomagik wrote:Yeah, I'm so hyped dude. I'm probably going to use it in conjunction with my computer a good bit though. I'm trying to pick up a usb mixer with RCA in and out so I can run ableton and record patterns into there so If a beat really needs that extra something I can fuck with em in there. Kind of a best of both worlds thing.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:46 pm

That mix is fucking sweet, it's not like super crazy but it definitely has it's own sound and tone. It's warbly and I love it.

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by 1233221 » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:52 pm

some interesting stuff in this thread!

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:08 pm

If those beats are meant to be instrumental, I'd cut each section in half. Sounds dope. One of those, I swear you'd bean in my old song files folder.
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by arcane uk » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:02 pm

I agree with nowaysj. Cut em in half!
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by zosomagik » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:34 pm

Diggin' that hey arnold avatar, that used to be my shit back in the day. Which reminds me, check out Jim Lang's music for samples, he did the music for that whole show and he has this really dope jazz/neo-soul sound.

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by Aiva » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:15 am

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by nowaysj » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:09 am

Aiva wrote:
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Aiva wrote:Hi guys please helpppp :) my friend has lost his serial number for Stylus RMX and threw the package out without registering ( I know his mad too ) :( what can be done now the company wont do anything :(

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Cool, how are they helping you?
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by Aiva » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:39 am

Thank you I was just asking for a friend and I think everyone has times where they forget to save or jot things down. There is someone who is actually helping me get the serial number now so no worries x[/quote]

Cool, how are they helping you?[/quote]

Their getting in touch with the company again because they also went through the same thing and somehow got them to send them a new number. So fingers crossed :)

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Re: Beat Music Makers

Post by Sexual_Chocolate » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:53 am

wub wrote:
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EXPERIMENTAL BEAT TAPE PRODUCED WITH ONLY A SP 505 AND A SONY VCR.

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that mix tape is so dope.

anyone doing shit like this around here :P
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