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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:44 am
by dusty
Yeah keep harsh words to a minimum and simply vote with your feet.

FWD night or DMZ anyone? You decide.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:49 am
by the wiggle baron
Dusty wrote: FWD night or DMZ anyone? You decide.
Woah woah WOAH!!

I think the last thing we want is even a hint towards the idea of not going to fwd over...well, anything!!

Rinse/barefiles have done untold amounts for the dubstep scene. But surely fwd has to take the medal when it comes to promoting the scene.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:55 am
by ether
A lot of 'name' producers as noticibly absent in the postings of this thread.

as heads are always kean to use barefiles and dubstep forum for their own promotional purposes.

i may be reading between the lines here but it would seem that any big name artist would risk alot by voicing their oppinions due to the extent of the ammunition empire...

big up scuba for letting his oppinions be known.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:59 am
by spaceboy
Hotflush/Scuba risk fuck all - there is no association with FWD or DMZ. And thats how we like it.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:00 pm
by josephine
The Wiggle Baron wrote:
Dusty wrote: FWD night or DMZ anyone? You decide.
Woah woah WOAH!!

I think the last thing we want is even a hint towards the idea of not going to fwd over...well, anything!!

Rinse/barefiles have done untold amounts for the dubstep scene. But surely fwd has to take the medal when it comes to promoting the scene.
Well I doubt I will be going FWD again for a LONG time, its a shame, but im not gonna be a hypocrite on this one. How can I say all this and agree with most things ppl are saying, but then inturn endorse this kind of behaviour. But as as I mentioned before, its not just this, I just find it painfully boring these days.

I just hope all this doesnt effect the DJ's, coz they are BIG, and I will always support each and everyone of them. But just not at FWD. And for them to ban Deaps is just childish. But whatever, only bigger and better things can come of all of this.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:00 pm
by poax
i said my piece.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:10 pm
by madrpo
The 1 thing i'm wondering about is how would rinse make money from hosting these files? its definately good to hear these sets and d/l them but they are not the greatest quality........and i mean the bitrate not the tunes! who would pay for them?

i think they are good for promoting the music and good for people who arent lucky enough to be able to go to good dubstep nights, but stopping someone hosting them...........sounds a bit petty

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:16 pm
by fushimi
madrpo wrote:The 1 thing i'm wondering about is how would rinse make money from hosting these files?
I guess they're hoping for ad revenue. The fact remains, Rinse doesn't pay royalties to the artists of the songs they play, so how can they claim copyright over the content of the transmissions?

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:19 pm
by scoz
additional advertising revenue. tag a few onto the start, slap some in the middle. seeing as most of the sets that had been on barefiles were ad free.

ah fushimi beat me to it.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:21 pm
by seckle
Dusty wrote:Yeah keep harsh words to a minimum
i can't agree any stronger.

we want to fly the flag for free speech as the moderating team, but there are limits, and trust that this thread is hovering right at that point now.

any further aggressive comments beyond this point may be edited at our discretion. it's not a question of censoring, it's a question of standing by our rules.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:23 pm
by r33lc4sh
seckle plz let the people write what they feel

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:23 pm
by josephine
seckle wrote:
Dusty wrote:Yeah keep harsh words to a minimum and simply vote with your feet.
i can't agree any stronger.

we want to fly the flag for free speech as the moderating team, but there are limits, and trust that this thread is hovering right at that point now.

any further aggressive comments beyond this point may be edited at our discretion. it's not a question of censoring, it's a question of standing by our rules.
Big up the moderation crew!

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:28 pm
by j_j
spaceboy wrote :Hotflush/Scuba risk fuck all - there is no association with FWD or DMZ. And thats how we like it.
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BUT paul did try buy barefiles off dean. :lol: :o

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:29 pm
by jamie
I'd say its probably more about having the exclusivity of their mixes rather than charging for them. This is a big usp for advertisers, if they're the only person putting out whats proven to be some of the most popular mixes on the web then they can attract more advertisers and in turn start charging more - now I don't know any of that for sure, just a business analysis of what I've read ere.

Doing alot of work in the DnB scene I'm more than used to seeing/hearing about this kinda business going down, but that scene has been established on that level alot longer than dubstep. It doesnt suprise me to see stuff like this happening, but it looks like Ammo could've gone about it in a much more diplomatic way than they have...

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:34 pm
by madrpo
Doing alot of work in the DnB scene I'm more than used to seeing/hearing about this kinda business going down, but that scene has been established on that level alot longer than dubstep. It doesnt suprise me to see stuff like this happening, but it looks like Ammo could've gone about it in a much more diplomatic way than they have...
that says it all, they could've done it in a better way

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:37 pm
by thinking
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:40 pm
by dubway
i hate politics!

i have to lock this thread until we get a response from Rinse FM.

Rinse FM or representatives of Rinse FM should pm to me their official response, should they choose to respond at all, and i will post it here.


*** due to a complaint received i had to edit some posts. sorry for the inconvieniece.