Untrue - your thoughts

[batfink]

[quote="7""]shout to the moral principles priests and for the straight ethic and moral followed by some people, for judging people on causing such a tragedy, revealing the holy grail.[/quote]

big to the sense crew making none all at

[seckle]

so angry about this. feel the anger...

[masstronaut]

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[masstronaut]

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[xor]

But hey, dubstep is underground, so we're safe.

That's not what I said.

I don't think it is up to us to make assumptions about Hyperdub and the state of its finances.

I just think that as a scene we need to protect our own.

Agree to disagree eh?

That wasn't aimed at you Contakt, I know you didn't say that.

Yeah, we do need to protect our own, like I said, I wouldn't ever discuss it openly. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm all for using uncleared samples and screwing the corporates and selling records under the counter, and the shop staff denying they even ever stocked it (true story), but you can only get away with that at a certain level.

Perhaps Burial has reached a level where it's more difficult to do. If dubstep is over the parapet, people should be looking out for themselves on a legal level as well, cus the punters keeping quiet won't stop a Burial lp landing on the desk of a film company employee. They're record buyers too.

That's all.

[masstronaut]

It's just that doing it here of all places is so ridiculous.

[7"]

[quote="7""]shout to the moral principles priests and for the straight ethic and moral followed by some people, for judging people on causing such a tragedy, revealing the holy grail.

big to the sense crew making none all at[/quote]

big up to you
pof pof

[moujah]

For me it's all about RAVER however, since I haven't ever been into 4/4 kick drum music, it makes me wonder what I may have been missing out on in the last few years. Is there anything anyone can think of that even REMOTELY resembles the vibes on this track? I need educationz. Thanks.

exactly! that's what I've been thinking when I first heard it, was like "why did I never like this kind of housey tunes?" but I believe they just didn't have the burial vibe so most of them were just cheesy and shite. wondering what would burial hip-hop be like though

[tappy tippon]

this thread has become hyperdumb

funny AND true

[ufo over easy]

exactly! that's what I've been thinking when I first heard it, was like "why did I never like this kind of housey tunes?" but I believe they just didn't have the burial vibe so most of them were just cheesy and shite. wondering what would burial hip-hop be like though

you're missing out on a whole world of music

[compound one]

Sounds like he just split up with his missus

[stanton]

Sounds like he just split up with his missus

Sounded like that on the first one too.

[compound one]

Sounds like he just split up with his missus

Sounded like that on the first one too.

More so on this one tho i think. But shit, i know how that is... 2.5 years on and she's still a fucking ho!

[moujah]

exactly! that's what I've been thinking when I first heard it, was like "why did I never like this kind of housey tunes?" but I believe they just didn't have the burial vibe so most of them were just cheesy and shite. wondering what would burial hip-hop be like though

you're missing out on a whole world of music

yeah, I know that but.. the world is so big and life so short.... :-/

[umkhontowesizwe]

for the record, i couldn't care less what samples burial used and if they were cleared or not. a bit of consistency wouldn't go a miss though. to repeat my statement from earlier in the thread:

"So the general consensus seems to be that using un-cleared samples in tracks and making money off of them is A-ok, but anyone downloading said tracks on a file sharing programme should be treated as some sort of pariah? This shit gets harder and harder to follow."

'protecting our own' is a bit of a cop out. if you want to take the moral high ground, you better hold everyone to the same standards, no matter how good a producer they are.

nahmean?

[masstronaut]

I don't think we should have that discussion this thread.

[umkhontowesizwe]

I don't think we should have that discussion this thread.

seen, going round in circles. that shall be my last contribution on the matter.

[masstronaut]

It's just a bit apples and oranges I think. And it's not specifically relevant to this album so it should go elsewhere. Look at the history of hip hop and early sampling for an idea of what the artistic and ethical arguments are with regard to sampling.

[man-versus-sofa]

regardless if the samples are lagit or not is no bother to me...


its simply a good album.


and if its all leagle and got in to some mainstream folks hands it would be nominated for the mercury prize

wouldnt be a bad thing i think

at least you see who he is

[popshot]

Hi everyone, my first post here...

Glorious album, most exciting music in years I think. Perfect for that moment before sleep comes. Or daytime of course.

As for the samples, do we know for sure they are not legit? If that's the case, the responsibility lies with Hyperdub. It's not as if this record was ever going to be ignored by the mainstream press.