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garethom wrote:It's a very complex matter that I'm sure can't be solved by bods in the SNH with a couple of sentences.

No offence, but we'd probably only be chatting egg.

oh yeah, for sure. Economists know what they're doing for the most part but i feel that raising minimum wage is more of a "look how good we are to the poor people" move rather than anything substantial.

garethom wrote:It's a very complex matter that I'm sure can't be solved by bods in the SNH with a couple of sentences.

No offence, but we'd probably only be chatting egg.

how is that different to every other single thread/discussion on here?

also that is basically my point in all the politics/ world war threads

m8son wrote:

garethom wrote:It's a very complex matter that I'm sure can't be solved by bods in the SNH with a couple of sentences.

No offence, but we'd probably only be chatting egg.

how is that different to every other single thread/discussion on here?

Just saying that it's probably not a matter of:

- Increase in minimum wage will make poor people better off
- Increase in minimum wage will make things worse for everyone

It's a complex issue that has bits of both worlds in it, that nobody here really understands.

Don't mind people chatting wet, as long as they don't act like experts on it

where are you in every thread i get attacked in for saying that stuff? loool

m8son wrote:where are you in every thread i get attacked in for saying that stuff? loool

You come across as a Victor Meldrew when you make your valid points, nobody wants to chill with a Victor.

can't say i have knowingly listened to/ been influenced by frankie knuckles music, some pretty heartfelt eulogizing going out today for him, shall have a listen today

yeah tbph i hadn't really ever heard of him

murky21 wrote:can't say i have knowingly listened to/ been influenced by frankie knuckles music, some pretty heartfelt eulogizing going out today for him, shall have a listen today

yeh im in exactly the same boat, ive got a mix of his on at the moment.

obviously having created house, which has laid foundations to so much music, his contribtion will have been epic, however haven't rinsed anything directly by him having never been into house really

JizzMan wrote:

hubb wrote:I really hope he never goes after football so i can enjoy that

his latest episode does take a hit at the London oligarchs who love premiership football

And the FA with the whole word with no context thing, but its fair.

imo if u have a standard minimum wage, it has to be applied across the board so i don't think workers would be laid off as much as many people speculate. they still need the workers to produce the goods. some workers would be replaced by automation/machines but not as many as if they only increased the minimum wage for some types of businesses and not others.

instead the capitalists would try to pass the increase off onto the consumer. i say let them. i'm not an expert but i've heard experts say that studies show that the increase in prices is pretty minimal, we're talking about pennies (well, that was for a $10.10 minimum wage, not a living wage, but...).

i'd rather pay a bit more in prices and be able to use that extra consumer power to reward good companies with low prices than just pay more in taxes in order to subsidize all of those ppl who need welfare because they weren't paid a living wage. there would be more competition among capitalists to keep prices low, which is a good thing.

the bottom line is that we are paying for these people to live one way or another. bill maher said "if walmart won't pay their workers a living wage, then uncle sam has to." we can't just let ppl who actually work for a living and hold up their end of the social contract starve and be homeless. i'd rather it came from their paychecks than from our taxes.

not to mention, for all those concerned about the debt, increasing the minimum wage will lower the deficit because there will be less welfare. that's probably a good thing.

murky21 wrote:obviously having created house, which has laid foundations to so much music, his contribtion will have been epic, however haven't rinsed anything directly by him having never been into house really

link if you find anything good

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