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Yes man, love that mix especially the samiyam bit

ahhhh yeahhhh

i've come to this forum for some help. i have been producing on and off since 2009. i found that i am not best at dubstep & trap. i'm best at samples & timestretching, one problem is:
not knowing music theory. i change my samples to which key i see that fits the rest of my drums.
how can i learn how to add my own synth sounds to FIT the key i am in. i know this is a noob-ish question. so i am saying that right now, i am a noob.

NOOOOOOOOOOB!!!!

Naw, if you're working with a music sample, maybe you've pitched it down. Just get a like a sine synth, or a simple waveform, and just find the key/note that sounds the most right with the sample. Just loop the sample, and keep playing up and down on the keyboard. The sample may be in between two notes, you can either fine tune it, +- 10, 30, whatever, or you can fine tune your synth to match the sample. Once you have note/piano key that is the most right, just start playing notes up from there. Some notes will sound like they blend in, and some will stick out really bad. Don't play those bad notes (unless you like the taste of sour), and play the good notes.

There isn't really much magic to it. Just find notes that sound right. No theory required.

You're approaching it the wrong way, think less about technicalities and more about the actual mood you want to create

IRRAIK_304 wrote:i've come to this forum for some help. i have been producing on and off since 2009. i found that i am not best at dubstep & trap. i'm best at samples & timestretching, one problem is:
not knowing music theory. i change my samples to which key i see that fits the rest of my drums.
how can i learn how to add my own synth sounds to FIT the key i am in. i know this is a noob-ish question. so i am saying that right now, i am a noob.

Do you play any instruments at all? like I know a lot of guitar players that don't know theory. But anyway if you don't, start. And look up tutorials on your instrument, pick up some books on theory and use your ears. Eventually you'll be able to pick out keys of samples by fiddling around on your instrument while playing the sample. Then after doing that for awhile your ears will just be able to tell you.

But in the meantime, do what noways said and use your ears to just fiddle with it. I know it's frustrating when you can't figure it out right away, but the more you struggle, eventually the better you will get at it. And the combination of this and learning an instrument will have your ears golden in no time at all.

Dunno why people are always trying to find difficult ways around theory when they could spend much less effort and teach themselves a basic understanding of harmony. You could spend a week casually watching youtube tutorials on your free time, or you could spend that time and more over the course of your music career wasting precious time during a session trying to figure out the key of a sample instead of actually producing. In the time it takes you to trial and error your way through 3 tracks, you could have taught yourself a very valuable skill.

Biggups on making truhead music though.

SunkLo wrote:Dunno why people are always trying to find difficult ways around theory when they could spend much less effort and teach themselves a basic understanding of harmony. You could spend a week casually watching youtube tutorials on your free time, or you could spend that time and more over the course of your music career wasting precious time during a session trying to figure out the key of a sample instead of actually producing. In the time it takes you to trial and error your way through 3 tracks, you could have taught yourself a very valuable skill.

Biggups on making truhead music though.

I thinks it's all about a combination of the two: getting your head around the info. as well training your ears

I still make shit music, but it was even more shit before I started doing ear training stuff, and albeit what I suggested isn't technically a proper form of ear training, it's training the ears nonetheless.

the only instuments i can play are drums and piano. i took classes when i was younger. i know the basics, and i play by ear, and i can also read music. i just stuggle with (example) if a song is in Dminor what other keys/chords go along with it. right now the only theory i have is "if it sounds good, and i am nodding my head, it's good" i just notice my beats have potential, but not the best it can be.

Google or youtube how to construct the major scale, then after you have that memorized, google or youtube harmonizing the major scale.

Any chord built off the notes of D Minor! There's not really a formula for making good music, you might just suck right now. Keep at it and you'll develop a better ear for harmony. You should spend some time with a keyboard just working on writing harmony parts. It's easy to make a bangin beat, so ignore that part for now. Get something that sounds compelling before you even think about drums. Then you've got the easy part saved for last.

You've definitely got some more theory you can learn that will help out with diatonic chords and voicings. If you've got the basics down it should be pretty easy to pick up some more harmony knowledge. You're probably right before the point where things start to click.

thank you everyone, i'm so glad you guys aren't being a-holes about it

If you were a douchey little tnuc, truss, you'd get asshole galore directed at you.

Or if you made trap.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, this is a dope watch. Also the source of that picture of a deck with blunts all over it from a post earlier in the thread

zosomagik wrote:For anyone who hasn't seen it, this is a dope watch. Also the source of that picture of a deck with blunts all over it from a post earlier in the thread

Good discussion on it starting here - http://www.dubstepforum.com/forum/viewt ... 0#p2865738

Nobody's beat from there...

J Rocc's tho

SunkLo wrote:J Rocc's tho

Yeah dude, they were all pretty dope. At least the bits you got to hear, but I'm gonna have to go with J Rocc's. Also, I wanna chill in Ras G's shed.

watching this again... every time they cut to nobody... I'm like, yeahhhhh... that is what my studio sounds like, haha...