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DJoe wrote:not musically great

so its not great basically?

Harkat wrote:

DJoe wrote:not musically great

so its not great basically?

It's fun, and good, just not chin strokey

as in pulse x isnt musically great but as a dance tune its nang for example. it doesnt have loads of complex rhythms and melodys and harmonies and stuff. its just good to dance to and fun.

I don't understand how music can be good but not "musically good"

DJoe wrote:it doesnt have loads of complex rhythms and melodys and harmonies and stuff. its just good to dance to and fun.

so "complex" = musically good even if it's a bit shit

can you have tunes that are musically good but actually shit?

yeah definitely

nobody wrote:

Harkat wrote:

DJoe wrote:not musically great

so its not great basically?

It's fun, and good, just not chin strokey

basically yeah

but surely the point of music is to achieve an emotional reaction, not to be "complex" by some abstract measurement

so if it bangs, it's musically good. If it makes you cry it's also musically good.

w/e tbh

Harkat wrote:I don't understand how music can be good but not "musically good"

DJoe wrote:it doesnt have loads of complex rhythms and melodys and harmonies and stuff. its just good to dance to and fun.

so "complex" = musically good even if it's a bit shit

can you have tunes that are musically good but actually shit?

You're talking to dnb heads here, a fundamental distinction can be seen.

Harkat wrote:but surely the point of music is to achieve an emotional reaction

Not necessarily

yeah im not really a big dnb fan. im aware of whats good in the genre tho.
'but surely the point of music is to achieve an emotional reaction, not to be "complex" by some abstract measurement

so if it bangs, it's musically good. If it makes you cry it's also musically good.

w/e tbh'
yeah i agree with that except id say if it bangs its good if it makes you cry its good
using pulse x as an example again it bangs its good. but i think youd struggle to persuade anyone that it took a musical genius to make it.

maybe that's us dealing with techno's stigma as dumb dance music.
music doesn't have to be complex or innovative to be good (and vice versa; just because something's innovative doesn't automatically mean it's good). as with a lot of things, different music has different purposes and qualities. I guess the key is to not simply distinguish between "good" and "bad" music, but to differentiate between "good electronic dance music" and "bad electronic dance music", "good classical music" and "bad classical music" etc. what good is it to try and formulate a certain set of values in order to categorise music when sonatas and technobelters have two completely different purposes? compare and judge within genres. and don't be afraid to admit liking "bad" music.

130 people I rate: Facta, Hodge, Beneath. Acre has a couple of really nice tunes. Etch has some sick beats aswell. Epoch is imho one of dubstep's finest producers at the moment.

Pulse X = E = MC^2

Genius is in the simplicity.

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cant remember if i already posted this, but at the boxed boiler room i met some dude similar age in the smoking area from brixton, asked him if he was at the dmz thing the week before and he was like 'naah maybe a few years ago....'

like fully a fair response, it's been a long time since dmz was leading the charge, but we're about to watch spooky and wttttffffff is new about that
i know i already whinged about this but people are circlejerking over grime so much they dont give a fuck if they're doing something fresh

^ just saw u on road looking pretty 130

lool isit, had to get risotto supplies

i think it was you but i cant really remember what you look like haha

biege jacket n a 5 panal?

beige jacket beige ralph cap

no 5 panels

soz

but ye i seen u basically.

at least he was right about you being on road, man.


were you smokin' the finezt?