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magma wrote:
Project management is the white-collar goldmine though. If there's one thing I get tempted to switch over to, it's that... great money, reliable hours (the people you're managing might not say the same...) and, as long as you can be chummy with people day-in-day-out probably pretty satisfying too. Have a look at Prince2... get that on your CV and you're only a couple of years experience from getting 300/day for asking people "Have you done it yet?"

cheers for that

gonna look into this, they do a night course at my uni

Pistonsbeneath wrote:what exactly do you do magma I remember you said you were ceo of a company at one point?

CEO's a bit grand! I'm a Director of my company (again, I was back under the Man's thumb for a few years until Feb) but it's not exactly a multi-national conglomerate, it's mostly just me whoring myself out to IT departments around the City and any side hustles I can find in my own time!

Shame the John Lewis thing didn't work out... they are by far and away the best company I've ever worked for.

Got a call and looks like this important regional dude has given less hours to other yellow people and is going to give me a full week so that's something eh haha

Will put everything into it anyway...and John Lewis seemed to me to turf out everyone in the room that would have impressed me and left the quiet ones in the room...once girl barely said a word and apparently is better than me for selling technology lol given I ran the hmv tech section in croydon to a high level and have an outrageously good written reference to back it up it all seemed to me like they wanted blank sheets to paint however they wanted...

I'll tell you the people that like me in retail actually...the regional managers much more than the store managers or A.M's or supervisors

weird that again this guy at tesco that is higher than a store manager that was there for a group assessment rated me when other interviews that don't go higher than store managers tend to be a bit lukewarm...not sure what that means

At HMV the Regional manager was feared by every manager pretty much and yet we got on superb and he was the basis to an extent on which people had to respect me...

https://handb-nbty.icims.com/jobs/13946 ... -hours/job ?

Got a call and looks like this important regional dude has given less hours to other yellow people and is going to give me a full week so that's something eh haha

Nice one. Working hard never goes unnoticed either... your business karma is levelling up.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:it all seemed to me like they wanted blank sheets to paint however they wanted...

That may well be true. They'll have gone in with an idea of what sort of person they want before anyone arrived like all interviewers will... that won't always be you, so don't let it dishearten you too much.

John Lewis are pretty unique as a company in the UK in that all their employees are Partners in the business and so once people get there they tend to stay for the rest of their career (not many other places let the cleaning staff take the company yachts out for the weekend)... with that in mind, whether you're applying for a job stacking shelves or as a fashion buyer, it's not just your ability to stack shelves or buy garms that they're worried about, they want people that they can see still being with the company in a few decades time.

I was only a contractor for them, but if someone had offered me a permy I would've found it hard to turn down. They look after their employees brilliantly - it's the only place I've ever been jealous of people earning less cash than me... they've got subsidized bars and canteens in every office and they've even got things like holiday homes dotted around the country so that employees on lower wages can take their family away on the cheap.

I really do love me some John Lewis. Go back and be whatever they want you to be. (I'm kidding... sort of )

wub wrote:https://handb-nbty.icims.com/jobs/13946 ... -hours/job ?

thankyou

Thanks so much Wub I applied and wrote a nice covering letter

magma wrote:

Got a call and looks like this important regional dude has given less hours to other yellow people and is going to give me a full week so that's something eh haha

Nice one. Working hard never goes unnoticed either... your business karma is levelling up.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:it all seemed to me like they wanted blank sheets to paint however they wanted...

That may well be true. They'll have gone in with an idea of what sort of person they want before anyone arrived like all interviewers will... that won't always be you, so don't let it dishearten you too much.

John Lewis are pretty unique as a company in the UK in that all their employees are Partners in the business and so once people get there they tend to stay for the rest of their career (not many other places let the cleaning staff take the company yachts out for the weekend)... with that in mind, whether you're applying for a job stacking shelves or as a fashion buyer, it's not just your ability to stack shelves or buy garms that they're worried about, they want people that they can see still being with the company in a few decades time.

I was only a contractor for them, but if someone had offered me a permy I would've found it hard to turn down. They look after their employees brilliantly - it's the only place I've ever been jealous of people earning less cash than me... they've got subsidized bars and canteens in every office and they've even got things like holiday homes dotted around the country so that employees on lower wages can take their family away on the cheap.

I really do love me some John Lewis. Go back and be whatever they want you to be. (I'm kidding... sort of )

Yeah I know all this...you know why?

I spent 3 days in the evenings researching them from every angle and had a 50 page document i put together that I memorized as well!

And never got any chance to use it in the group process which pissed me off...neither did I get a chance to talk about myself as you had to talk about the person next to you based on what they told you...

Had to sell a plastic kids plate to the group that had no price on it and no information when everyone else had something priced that I could have sold easily...

Pistonsbeneath wrote:

magma wrote:

Got a call and looks like this important regional dude has given less hours to other yellow people and is going to give me a full week so that's something eh haha

Nice one. Working hard never goes unnoticed either... your business karma is levelling up.

Pistonsbeneath wrote:it all seemed to me like they wanted blank sheets to paint however they wanted...

That may well be true. They'll have gone in with an idea of what sort of person they want before anyone arrived like all interviewers will... that won't always be you, so don't let it dishearten you too much.

John Lewis are pretty unique as a company in the UK in that all their employees are Partners in the business and so once people get there they tend to stay for the rest of their career (not many other places let the cleaning staff take the company yachts out for the weekend)... with that in mind, whether you're applying for a job stacking shelves or as a fashion buyer, it's not just your ability to stack shelves or buy garms that they're worried about, they want people that they can see still being with the company in a few decades time.

I was only a contractor for them, but if someone had offered me a permy I would've found it hard to turn down. They look after their employees brilliantly - it's the only place I've ever been jealous of people earning less cash than me... they've got subsidized bars and canteens in every office and they've even got things like holiday homes dotted around the country so that employees on lower wages can take their family away on the cheap.

I really do love me some John Lewis. Go back and be whatever they want you to be. (I'm kidding... sort of )

Yeah I know all this...you know why?

I spent 3 days in the evenings researching them from every angle and had a 50 page document i put together that I memorized as well!

And never got any chance to use it in the group process which pissed me off...neither did I get a chance to talk about myself as you had to talk about the person next to you based on what they told you...

Had to sell a plastic kids plate to the group that had no price on it and no information when everyone else had something priced that I could have sold easily...

Ouch. Can understand why that'd piss you off a bit then especially if you'd spent days on groundwork. It's definitely always worth researching a little to show respect to wherever you're interviewing, but not many people are going to need you to be that prepared unless you're trying to go in as head of department.

I tend to interview a lot as I move around a bit as a contractor... although I always go in confident, you do have to get used to getting the odd knock-back. I've tried to interpret them as "Well, the job obviously wasn't right for me" as much as "Well, I obviously wasn't right for the job"... it's a two-way matching process.

As someone who has worked for tesco since I was 17 (turning 22 next month), this page is encouraging.

Really need to get out of there and get a proper job, but feel like I wouldn't know where to go from here

my 2p:

If you are really technically minded and like computer shit. Learn to code, failing that get really good at PPC/SEO or something and you can make over 30 - 35k within a year or two (if in London). most senior members of staff are 60k+ and big bosses in some sectors are £130-200k a year.

SEO and PPC make lots quickly because there are more jobs than people that do it. first job out of uni was £25k

woke up to the picture of a giant shit.

gg, no re.

it was pretty cool wasnt it

now youve gotta send one back m8, common courtesy

That feel when you realise you've been sending people an outdated version of your CV..

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epochalypso wrote:That feel when you realise you've been sending people an outdated version of your CV...

wub wrote:

epochalypso wrote:That feel when you realise you've been sending people an outdated version of your CV...

this EXACT same thing happened to me when i was a teenager (at least he left off excessive) I handed out 3 of them before I realised.
dont get ur mates to print ur CVs.

Lad I knew at college when I was 16-17 asked me to print off a copy of his English coursework as he didn't have any credit left on his printing account. I did a 'Find and Replace' substituting the word 'the' for 'potato'.

I honestly thought he'd notice, but he didn't.

wub wrote:Lad I knew at college when I was 16-17 asked me to print off a copy of his English coursework as he didn't have any credit left on his printing account. I did a 'Find and Replace' substituting the word 'the' for 'potato'.

I honestly thought he'd notice, but he didn't.