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idontreallygiveashit wrote:I dont really follow Diegosapiens is trying to say, if im honest.

DiegoSapiens wrote:The holocaust wasn´t because Hitler wanted to exterminate all the jews, he didn´t like them and he thought they were a inferior race but he didn´t give shit about them, he would have kick them out of his country like everyone has done along the history. The reason was that the zionist wanted to form a new state in the promised land, they wanted the jews to leave europe and form a new state in palestine.

magma wrote:Blatant troll is blatant.

Back on topic, I think England are going to do alright tonight.

hutyluty wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:The holocaust wasn´t because Hitler wanted to exterminate all the jews, he didn´t like them and he thought they were a inferior race but he didn´t give shit about them, he would have kick them out of his country like everyone has done along the history. The reason was that the zionist wanted to form a new state in the promised land, they wanted the jews to leave europe and form a new state in palestine.

To say Hitler "didn't give a shit" about Jews is ridiculous. if you've ever read Mein Kampf or looked at his speeches he dedicates an awful lot of time denouncing the evils of the international jewry- as well as the huge amounts of anti jew propaganda produced by the sizan before and after they were in power. He was obsessed by removing the Jewish influence in Germany and throughout the world,initially he had ideas which were similar to the Zionist movement, trying to settle all the Jews in Madagascar at one point and yes encouraged them to move to Palestine. Unfortunately due to the World War which he'd begun this was impossible and so the sizan felt they had no other option to kill them all, destroying the Jews taking precedence even over defending the homeland from Soviet armies in the last months of the war.

The holocaust was a result of thousands of years of distrust and prejudice of Jewish culture in Europe, their outsider status meaning they were constantly used as a as a scapegoat- especially in times of economic strife (due to usuury and all that), so many felt the time had come to try and leave Europe and take up the Zionist cause and resettle their "ancestral home" in Palestine. The number of people fleeing increased markedly under the izan regime, as you would expect, and there may well have been some of the more radical Zionists happy at the fact more Jews were being pushed towards leaving Europe. But to then claim responsibility of the fucking Holocaust on the Zionists is mad. The only case you might make might be that they didn't get enough Jews out of there quick enough...Trying to aportion blame for the holocaust to the zionist movement is like trying to claim the black panthers were to blame for civil rights issues in America.

dubfordessert wrote:the idea about the holocaust not being planned from the beginning but partly designed as a solution to developing problems is plausible but still hotly debated (look up ian kershaw if you want for the best history on that issue).

but "the zionists" did not have some kind of demonic pact with hitler to institute the holocaust.

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:the idea about the holocaust not being planned from the beginning but partly designed as a solution to developing problems is plausible but still hotly debated (look up ian kershaw if you want for the best history on that issue).

but "the zionists" did not have some kind of demonic pact with hitler to institute the holocaust.

look at the article i posted, they even did a medal with the hesvastica in one side and the star of david in the other to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist

dubfordessert wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:the idea about the holocaust not being planned from the beginning but partly designed as a solution to developing problems is plausible but still hotly debated (look up ian kershaw if you want for the best history on that issue).

but "the zionists" did not have some kind of demonic pact with hitler to institute the holocaust.

look at the article i posted, they even did a medal with the hesvastica in one side and the star of david in the other to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist

no they didn't. that never happened. sorry.

"Mark Weber" is not a "prestigious historian" and the Institute for Hisorical Review is not a prestigious historical organization. He's a holocaust denier and his organisation is, er, a holocaust denial organization.

There was no secret zionist conspiratorial involvement in murdering 6 million people for the sake of moving to Palestine. the idea is fundamentally ridiculous and its propagation motivated by anti-semitism.

I kind of feel sorry for you tbh.

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:the idea about the holocaust not being planned from the beginning but partly designed as a solution to developing problems is plausible but still hotly debated (look up ian kershaw if you want for the best history on that issue).

but "the zionists" did not have some kind of demonic pact with hitler to institute the holocaust.

look at the article i posted, they even did a medal with the hesvastica in one side and the star of david in the other to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist

no they didn't. that never happened. sorry.

"Mark Weber" is not a "prestigious historian" and the Institute for Hisorical Review is not a prestigious historical organization. He's a holocaust denier and his organisation is, er, a holocaust denial organization.

There was no secret zionist conspiratorial involvement in murdering 6 million people for the sake of moving to Palestine. the idea is fundamentally ridiculous and its propagation motivated by anti-semitism.

I kind of feel sorry for you tbh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Weber http://reasonradionetwork.com/programs/ ... ber-report

" He studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich (Germany), and Portland State University, from where he received a bachelor’s degree in history (with high honors). He then did graduate work in history at Indiana University (Bloomington), where he served as a history instructor and received a Master’s degree in European history."
"In 1988 he testified for five days in Toronto District Court as a recognized expert witness on Germany's wartime Jewish policy and the Holocaust issue. During the five years he lived in Washington, DC, he carried out extensive historical research at the National Archives and the Library of Congress."

"Weber is sometimes disparaged as a “Holocaust denier,” an epithet he rejects as both false and malicious."

The IHR was founded in 1978 by David McCalden (also known as Lewis Brandon), a former member of the British National Front, and Willis Carto, the head of the now-defunct Liberty Lobby. Liberty Lobby was an antisemitic organization best known for publishing The Spotlight, now reorganized as the American Free Press. Dave McCalden left the IHR in 1981. Tom Marcellus became its director, and Carto lost control of it in 1993, in an internal power struggle. Since 1995, the director of the IHR has been Mark Weber,[10] who previously worked with the white supremacist National Alliance. Since taking over, Weber has continued to publish writing on the Holocaust and on World War II and has pushed to broaden the institute's mandate.[11] He has been editor of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review for nine years.[10] Publication of the Journal ceased in 2002 due to lack of funds, and its main form of spreading its message is through its website IHR Update and e-mail list.[12] The website that Weber has built features such articles as "The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution" and "Israel at 60: A Grim Balance Sheet."[11]
At the IHR's first conference in 1979, IHR publicly offered a reward of $50,000 for verifiable "proof that gas chambers for the purpose of killing human beings existed at or in Auschwitz." This money (and an additional $40,000) was eventually paid in 1985 to Auschwitz survivor Mel Mermelstein, who, represented by public-interest lawyer William John Cox, sued the IHR for breach of contract for initially ignoring his evidence (a signed testimony of his experiences in Auschwitz). On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took "judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944."[13] On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to "Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz" for "pain, anguish and suffering" caused to them.[13]
David Irving, Robert Faurisson, Ernst Zündel, Fred Leuchter, Arthur Butz, Joseph Sobran, Pete McCloskey, Bradley R. Smith, Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Doug Collins and Radio Islam founder Ahmed Rami have attended conferences and/or contributed to publications of the IHR.
In 1996, IHR won a $6,430,000 judgment in a lawsuit against Carto in which IHR alleged that Carto embezzled $7.5 million that had been left to IHR from the estate of Jean Edison Farrel.[14][15]
In January 2009, Weber, the IHR's director, released an essay titled, "How Relevant Is Holocaust Revisionism?" In it he noted that Holocaust denial had attracted little support over the years: "It’s gotten some support in Iran, or places like that, but as far as I know, there is no history department supporting writing by these folks." Accordingly, he recommended that emphasis be placed instead on opposing "Jewish-Zionist power", which some commentators claim is a shift to a directly antisemitic position.[11][16]

It was the ultimate Jewish perversion of terms — civil rights, freedom and discrimination — that culminated in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Even a cursory glance over its statutes reveals obsolescence, disingenuousness and evil.

One goes into an American institution and reads a sign declaring, “discrimination on the basis of race, creed or gender is prohibited.” Suddenly seeing discrimination rendered pejorative, illegal even, one experiences a vague feeling of dread.

You sense immediately that you are being told not to have eyeballs. You are to be utterly defenseless against biological antagonists, to the destruction of that which is most important.

Telling Woolworth’s whom they must serve, how, and whom they must hire – that is called “freedom”. It must be the Jewish definition. Yes, freedom marches, the freedom riders, civil rights – of course.


The Civil Rights Act of 1964 banned racial segregation “by businesses offering food, lodging, gasoline, or entertainment to the public.”

This would seem to be a clear violation of freedom, but Jews are skilled at promoting the self-destruction of others. Whites have been high on objectivism, and Blacks are hyper-assertive.

dubfordessert wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:

DiegoSapiens wrote:

dubfordessert wrote:the idea about the holocaust not being planned from the beginning but partly designed as a solution to developing problems is plausible but still hotly debated (look up ian kershaw if you want for the best history on that issue).

but "the zionists" did not have some kind of demonic pact with hitler to institute the holocaust.

look at the article i posted, they even did a medal with the hesvastica in one side and the star of david in the other to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist

no they didn't. that never happened. sorry.

"Mark Weber" is not a "prestigious historian" and the Institute for Hisorical Review is not a prestigious historical organization. He's a holocaust denier and his organisation is, er, a holocaust denial organization.

There was no secret zionist conspiratorial involvement in murdering 6 million people for the sake of moving to Palestine. the idea is fundamentally ridiculous and its propagation motivated by anti-semitism.

I kind of feel sorry for you tbh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Weber http://reasonradionetwork.com/programs/ ... ber-report

" He studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the University of Munich (Germany), and Portland State University, from where he received a bachelor’s degree in history (with high honors). He then did graduate work in history at Indiana University (Bloomington), where he served as a history instructor and received a Master’s degree in European history."
"In 1988 he testified for five days in Toronto District Court as a recognized expert witness on Germany's wartime Jewish policy and the Holocaust issue. During the five years he lived in Washington, DC, he carried out extensive historical research at the National Archives and the Library of Congress."

"Weber is sometimes disparaged as a “Holocaust denier,” an epithet he rejects as both false and malicious."

oh my god, he has studied history?! that sure showed me!

tell me, if he's such a reputable historian, why does he talk so much crap and associate with this organization?

(wikipedia link time!!!)

The IHR was founded in 1978 by David McCalden (also known as Lewis Brandon), a former member of the British National Front, and Willis Carto, the head of the now-defunct Liberty Lobby. Liberty Lobby was an antisemitic organization best known for publishing The Spotlight, now reorganized as the American Free Press. Dave McCalden left the IHR in 1981. Tom Marcellus became its director, and Carto lost control of it in 1993, in an internal power struggle. Since 1995, the director of the IHR has been Mark Weber,[10] who previously worked with the white supremacist National Alliance. Since taking over, Weber has continued to publish writing on the Holocaust and on World War II and has pushed to broaden the institute's mandate.[11] He has been editor of the IHR's Journal of Historical Review for nine years.[10] Publication of the Journal ceased in 2002 due to lack of funds, and its main form of spreading its message is through its website IHR Update and e-mail list.[12] The website that Weber has built features such articles as "The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution" and "Israel at 60: A Grim Balance Sheet."[11]
At the IHR's first conference in 1979, IHR publicly offered a reward of $50,000 for verifiable "proof that gas chambers for the purpose of killing human beings existed at or in Auschwitz." This money (and an additional $40,000) was eventually paid in 1985 to Auschwitz survivor Mel Mermelstein, who, represented by public-interest lawyer William John Cox, sued the IHR for breach of contract for initially ignoring his evidence (a signed testimony of his experiences in Auschwitz). On October 9, 1981, both parties in the Mermelstein case filed motions for summary judgment in consideration of which Judge Thomas T. Johnson of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County took "judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944."[13] On August 5, 1985, Judge Robert A. Wenke entered a judgment based upon the Stipulation for Entry of Judgment agreed upon by the parties on July 22, 1985. The judgment required IHR and other defendants to pay $90,000 to Mermelstein and to issue a letter of apology to "Mr. Mel Mermelstein, a survivor of Auschwitz-Birkenau and Buchenwald, and all other survivors of Auschwitz" for "pain, anguish and suffering" caused to them.[13]
David Irving, Robert Faurisson, Ernst Zündel, Fred Leuchter, Arthur Butz, Joseph Sobran, Pete McCloskey, Bradley R. Smith, Carlo Mattogno, Jürgen Graf, Doug Collins and Radio Islam founder Ahmed Rami have attended conferences and/or contributed to publications of the IHR.
In 1996, IHR won a $6,430,000 judgment in a lawsuit against Carto in which IHR alleged that Carto embezzled $7.5 million that had been left to IHR from the estate of Jean Edison Farrel.[14][15]
In January 2009, Weber, the IHR's director, released an essay titled, "How Relevant Is Holocaust Revisionism?" In it he noted that Holocaust denial had attracted little support over the years: "It’s gotten some support in Iran, or places like that, but as far as I know, there is no history department supporting writing by these folks." Accordingly, he recommended that emphasis be placed instead on opposing "Jewish-Zionist power", which some commentators claim is a shift to a directly antisemitic position.[11][16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_ ... cal_Review

meanwhile, let's look at some direct quotes from the website of "Reason Radio Network", shall we?
http://reasonradionetwork.com/

It was the ultimate Jewish perversion of terms — civil rights, freedom and discrimination — that culminated in the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Even a cursory glance over its statutes reveals obsolescence, disingenuousness and evil.

One goes into an American institution and reads a sign declaring, “discrimination on the basis of race, creed or gender is prohibited.” Suddenly seeing discrimination rendered pejorative, illegal even, one experiences a vague feeling of dread.

You sense immediately that you are being told not to have eyeballs. You are to be utterly defenseless against biological antagonists, to the destruction of that which is most important.

Telling Woolworth’s whom they must serve, how, and whom they must hire – that is called “freedom”. It must be the Jewish definition. Yes, freedom marches, the freedom riders, civil rights – of course.


The Civil Rights Act of 1964 banned racial segregation “by businesses offering food, lodging, gasoline, or entertainment to the public.”

This would seem to be a clear violation of freedom, but Jews are skilled at promoting the self-destruction of others. Whites have been high on objectivism, and Blacks are hyper-assertive.

that's just the one article. should i look through some more or shall we just leave it there?

particle-jim wrote:Lol, told bruv...

computerface wrote:

particle-jim wrote:Lol, told bruv...

[ ] Not Told
[X] Told
[X] Fucking Told
[X] Ninten-Told
[X] The Young, The Told And The Restless
[X] Too Told for this Shit
[X] Visited the doctor and got diagnosed with a Told

DiegoSapiens wrote:You are right mate, I have been a perfect idiot, my apologies. I would try to inform myself better next time