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Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:26 am
by Sirius
Im talking about the information that the writer based his story on.

He takes a story that was written by a Israeli newspaper, then uses the issues raised in it to concoct his own article. I went & checked afew of his other articles, hes a good writer, but almost everything is anti-Israeli.

& yeah I share alot of his viewpoints...
but what does a freelance Irish writer based in Japan really know about the subject??
Its easy to search throughout the web & piece your own stories together by researching articles from around the world, but unless you have firsthand knowledge by witnessing what you write about...
its just propaganda taken from more propaganda.

Maidhc O’Cathail is a widely-published Irish author and journalist. He has been living in Japan since 1999. O’Cathail’s articles and commentaries have appeared on a number of media outlets and newspapers including Tehran Times, Khaleej Times, Antiwar.com, Foreign Policy Journal, Information Clearing House, Intifada Palestine, Pakistan Daily and Palestine Think Tank.

Have a read of some of his other articles & then come back & tell me what ya think!

Sorry I can't take internet journalists seriously, unless they offer references.

!!chea

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:41 am
by Sirius
I guess what really gripes me is...

People regurgitating the same issues over & over & over, without bringing more evidence to the table.
What ever happened to writing stories that are groundbreaking and shed new light to the situation?

!!chea

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:30 am
by hackman
Sirius wrote:but what does a freelance Irish writer based in Japan really know about the subject??
what do you really know about the subject, based in new zealand?
and as for "evidence," what evidence is needed? every point made is easily verifiable or obvious

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:05 pm
by Sirius
hackman wrote:
Sirius wrote:but what does a freelance Irish writer based in Japan really know about the subject??
what do you really know about the subject, based in new zealand?
and as for "evidence," what evidence is needed? every point made is easily verifiable or obvious
EXACTLY!!!

!!chea

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:32 pm
by hackman
so what's your problem with the link again?

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:10 pm
by Badman Juice
a lot of hate for Israel on here

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:09 am
by gen_
I think what sirius is trying to say is that the world press/gov./bloggers seem to be recycling the same few facts for getting that there were thousands of cables released. Is that really all they have gathered. Its like taking 5 lines from a book and then claiming the author is prejudiced when you didn't read the rest of the book.

What's worse is that every writer that writes about these five lines isn't offering a new perspective on it, or doing any original research. Their just rewording someone else's article with a little bit of opinion thrown in.

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:33 am
by particle-jim
Badman Juice wrote:a lot of hate for Israel on here
The nation not the people

I don't hate israeli people, spesh that 4ft7 (yes she was legal) israeli girl who gave me head pretty much on demand, but i certainly don't agree with Israel's aggressive expansionism and the whole palestine thing in general

i think that may be why a lot of people dislike israel

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:24 pm
by Motorway to Roswell
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/feat ... ian-201102
On the afternoon of November 1, 2010, Julian Assange, the Australian-born founder of WikiLeaks.org, marched with his lawyer into the London office of Alan Rusbridger, the editor of The Guardian. Assange was pallid and sweaty, his thin frame racked by a cough that had been plaguing him for weeks. He was also angry, and his message was simple: he would sue the newspaper if it went ahead and published stories based on the quarter of a million documents that he had handed over to The Guardian just three months earlier. The encounter was one among many twists and turns in the collaboration between WikiLeaks—a four-year-old nonprofit that accepts anonymous submissions of previously secret material and publishes them on its Web site—and some of the world’s most respected newspapers. The collaboration was unprecedented, and brought global attention to a cache of confidential documents—embarrassing when not disturbing—about American military and diplomatic activity around the world. But the partnership was also troubled from the start.

In Rusbridger’s office, Assange’s position was rife with ironies. An unwavering advocate of full, unfettered disclosure of primary-source material, Assange was now seeking to keep highly sensitive information from reaching a broader audience. He had become the victim of his own methods: someone at WikiLeaks, where there was no shortage of disgruntled volunteers, had leaked the last big segment of the documents, and they ended up at The Guardian in such a way that the paper was released from its previous agreement with Assange—that The Guardian would publish its stories only when Assange gave his permission. Enraged that he had lost control, Assange unleashed his threat, arguing that he owned the information and had a financial interest in how and when it was released.

Re: WikiLeaks

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:46 am
by Motorway to Roswell
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12141530
The US government has subpoenaed the social networking site Twitter for personal details of people connected to Wikileaks, court documents show.

The US District Court in Virginia said it wanted information including user names, addresses, connection records, telephone numbers and payment details.