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Terpit wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-develo ... etarianism

Heres an interesting quote from this article.
"Animal protein-rich food consumes five to 10 times more water than a vegetarian diet. One third of the world's arable land is used to grow crops to feed animals.."




From the comment section of this article.

"but the problem is that cows we eat cannot live naturally in the wild so we have to keep on consuming them."


"By 2050 I won't give a crap."


"Why can't you people just go to Tesco for water? It's very cheap at about 79p for a 2l bottle, and tastes much better than the stuff that comes out of the tap!"


"This is scary news, vegetarianism is really unhealthy."



Gave up after that.

No joke: I once had a bodybuilder tell me that I was going to die if I stopped eating meat. He was convinced and genuinely concerned, thought it was absolutely impossible. I tried to tell him about millions and millions of Hindus for thousands of years but that was lost on him before I even started... the kind of person who would argue that the Bible was written in English so god clearly wanted everyone to only speak English.

I almost wish I could find that guy now.

alphacat wrote:No joke: I once had a bodybuilder tell me that I was going to die if I stopped eating meat. He was convinced and genuinely concerned, thought it was absolutely impossible. I tried to tell him about millions and millions of Hindus for thousands of years but that was lost on him before I even started... the kind of person who would argue that the Bible was written in English so god clearly wanted everyone to only speak English.

I almost wish I could find that guy now.

please tell me there arent people that are actually that stupid.

He was real. I met him in...

[drum roll]

a college class.

the thing i dont get is praying befor eating, food is everywhere growing on the grownd unless you live in the dessert

prayer before eating relates to blessing the food.

makes your food into magickal eucharist

signals wrote:the thing i dont get is praying befor eating, food is everywhere growing on the grownd unless you live in the dessert

Guess its just a way to pause for a moment & apreciate that your healthy & have meal to eat, something we can take for granted.

I may eat meat, like daily... I mean seriously, y'all would hate me for how much meat I eat (it's convenient for someone who works out heavily). And despite the fact that our ancestors ate it and adapted to it; they only ate very little of it. Mostly leftovers from carcasses and whatever they could kill, which wouldn't always be easy (or safe). I mean shit, would you be willing to risk your life killing a mammoth if there's some eggs or nuts right there? Competing with wolves and big cats?

So humans deff OVERINDULGE on that shit. No amount of 'LOL HUMANS NEED MEAT' can like, from a natural standpoint, justify eating a fucking steak more than 2 or 3 times per week.

And like, from a purely natural standpoint, what made people successful is their diversity of their diet. There's no such thing as an 'ideal human diet', they all have their own problems/drawbacks and advantages (even to eating a lot of fat, of any kinds, and meat), but it enabled us to populate pretty much the whole planet.

Like the biggest problem with our 'diversity' as a species is that some people can't accept it and can't shut the fuck up about their own preferences.

Genevieve wrote:I mean shit, would you be willing to risk your life killing a mammoth if there's some eggs or nuts right there? Competing with wolves and big cats?

wait, what?

Nevalo wrote:

Genevieve wrote:I mean shit, would you be willing to risk your life killing a mammoth if there's some eggs or nuts right there? Competing with wolves and big cats?

wait, what?

Humans have been eating eggs fo' a looon ass time. It's a staple. Not just chicken eggs, but any egg they can find.

no no i misread... i though you were trying to say that eggs were a substitute for meat, when it IS a meat of sorts.

Nevalo wrote:no no i misread... i though you were trying to say that eggs were a substitute for meat, when it IS a meat of sorts.

Oh naww naww, just that people were more likely to eat something that wouldn't try to impale them.

Genevieve wrote:

Nevalo wrote:no no i misread... i though you were trying to say that eggs were a substitute for meat, when it IS a meat of sorts.

Oh naww naww, just that people were more likely to eat something that wouldn't try to impale them.

agreed. i would be eating eggs. fuck trying to chase a buffalo or something.

I was once upon a time in my mates kitchen, there were 3 of us, the other 2 were chefs, drinking quietly from one of those little drink cartons you put the straw into the top of, it was a protein milkshake, & tasty. Calmly to myself I acknowledged the nutritional info on the back of the drink...

"Its amazing you get 30 grams of protein in one of these".

One of my chef friends turns round from the stove where he was cooking, (funny enough) and quite angryly rants at me about how a 200g steak is what I need to eat because you need the 200g of protein in the steak every day.

My other chef friend turns to look at me as if to say "well, what have you got to say?" I just stood there, didnt say anything as I didnt want to aggrivate the moment any more then it already was & I especially didnt want to be telling the chefs that they didnt know their profession, & belittle their knowledge as they were/are proud chefs...

Its amazing how people can take people choices of food so badly that they lash out in anger.

Anyway a 200g steak isnt 200g protein, its about 30 to 40g. pretty much the same as the drink I had.
Also the recommended daily intake of protein depends on your weight, but isnt much more than that.


1/4 cup of hemp seeds has 15 grams protein.
1 cup tofu 40 grams protein.
1 cup fat free cottage cheese has 31 grams protein.
1 cup soybeans has 30 grams protein.
Egg, large – 6 grams protein


Food for thought.

You lot are pussies? You wouldn't want to hunt a fucking buffalo? Gwa and I alone could take a mammoth, with stone age tools none the less. We were born with the most savage weapon there is, and its exercise is exhilarating.

If I wanted to eat a buffalo, I would just persistence hunt him. Chase him for days. He has top speed, I have efficient heat exchange and long distance capabilities. I would chase him until he just stops and turns on me. He would ask, "I'm dead, aren't I?" To which I would reply, "Yes. I have chosen you. You will die." Whereupon he will simply collapse in surrender. I would skin him, cut out his guts and inhabit his body, eating away at the walls of my new temporary shelter. Afterwards, I would wear the skin, for all the buffalo to see and know, that I could take any one of them if I so chose. I would own the land, and it would make me its steward.

if you only eat raw food then you don't have to eat as much. someone told me about a that from a book

^^ are you sure you didnt see it on trading spouses ?

_v_ wrote:Anyway a 200g steak isnt 200g protein, its about 30 to 40g. pretty much the same as the drink I had.

Closer to 50 chief. There's roughly 25 grams of protein per 100 grams.

_v_ wrote:Also the recommended daily intake of protein depends on your weight, but isnt much more than that.

That's waaaay too controversial a claim and it depends on way more factors (body fat, activity, calories in diets, etc). My intake should be about 215 grams.

Besides, there's no way anyone can survive on 40 grams of protein per day. There's 4 calories per gram of protein. And let's say the average guy needs 2500 calories per day and let's say he eats 60 grams of protein per day. 60 x 4 = 240. You think that less than 10% of his daily caloric intake should be from protein, rllly? How much of it should be fat and carbs?

_v_ wrote:1/4 cup of hemp seeds has 15 grams protein.
1 cup tofu 40 grams protein.
1 cup fat free cottage cheese has 31 grams protein.
1 cup soybeans has 30 grams protein.
Egg, large – 6 grams protein


Food for thought.

That's a very misleading list you got thurrr braw. You need to calculate these values per weight to get a decent representation of how much protein is in there (can't name a bunch of values that represent VOLUME, followed with 1 egglol). And chicken/certain seafood still beats all with 30 grams per 100 gram serving.

and fuck soy and tofu. gmo soy made rats sterile in 3 generations and other gross shit like hair on their tongues