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Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:33 pm
by Jizz
still on that Samiyam hype




Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:00 pm
by zosomagik
I cannot put into words the dopeness that is Samiyam. Everytime I listen to his tunes I start window shopping for sp404's

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:07 am
by nowaysj
Dude, you got mad skills, just build a 404 in live: drum rack with about 8 or so different fxes, but only one activeable at a time, map three knobs to each fx, and start playing.

You can then replicate the microwave workflow.

You won't get the 404 sound, but by setting up those limitations, you will get to similar places, and if you want a final 404 compression crush, or vinyl sim, send me a 24/32 bit wave, I'll crush for you. :)

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:12 am
by SunkLo
Drum rack -> Effects rack, map chain selector to macro 1, chain params to macros 2-4 -> Redux -> Compressor

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:16 pm
by wolf89
Honestly though you'll also be surprised how cheap they will go for sometimes on ebay too if you keep an eye out

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:55 pm
by Jizz
hm, hmm... might try that diy approach myself

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:50 pm
by zosomagik
Yeah that's a good idea noways, and I look on ebay all the time wolf, but I've tried to buy 3 that all got sniped at the last second. Fucking bullshit.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:09 pm
by wub
zosomagik wrote:Yeah that's a good idea noways, and I look on ebay all the time wolf, but I've tried to buy 3 that all got sniped at the last second. Fucking bullshit.

Don't lose heart. I lost mine to sniping, then a couple of days later the seller got in touch advising that the guy who had won the auction didn't pay, so he offered it to me at my lower bid :)

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:43 pm
by zosomagik
Nice dude, that's pretty lucky. I'll get one eventually, I'm also considering going with a 303 because I have a friend who wants to get rid of his. It just seems like a lot more of a pain in the ass than the 404sx.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:54 pm
by nowaysj
That is a really tough one dude. I've never used a 303 but I have a firm belief that they have a better sound, and I think the 303 allows you to sample while other pads are playing which is pretty damn huge for a lot of people. Just confirm that. But I've got a coupla samplers that have fucked up old storage technologies and I don't use them...

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:58 pm
by Hex047
Man all this talk about the SP is making me go green with envy, I would seriously would love to own one....

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:17 pm
by zosomagik
Yeah, I probably wouldn't consider buying one if my buddy didn't want to get rid of his. I'm gonna do some research and look for some vids on it. Wub, don't you have a 303?

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:30 pm
by wub
zosomagik wrote:Yeah, I probably wouldn't consider buying one if my buddy didn't want to get rid of his. I'm gonna do some research and look for some vids on it. Wub, don't you have a 303?
Yes. One of my favourite purchases. Even days when I'm just running YouTube videos through it and sampling with the effects are awesome :U:

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:40 pm
by nowaysj
And let me say, for my workflow now, I could use a 303. Initially with the 404sx, I was loading the card with a lot of samples and then playing them in the 404sx. S'all good. But now I'm just sampling directly into the 404sx, on the fly. So I'll patch in turntable, or flstudio. Have been sampling with bpm, which is new for me, so I might create a beat phrase on the 404sx, and then have that playing on the 404 and then jam virtual synth with that, record that onto the comp, chop that into phrases, and then just sample out of fl into the 404, and then play those beat phrases with sampled synth lines.

But bottom line, sampling on the fly, you don't really need the storage capabilities of the 404sx, in which case the 303 is the shit.

How much is your buddy trying to sell the 303 for? Do all the knobs and pads and buttons work? A lot of those 303's are end of life.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:54 pm
by zosomagik
He said he'd sell it to me for $200, I'm pretty sure everything works. I'll definitely check it out in-depth, but I've known the dude for basically my entire life. I'm still pretty undecided though, I would rather have a 404sx but I could scoop up that 303 for about half the price the 404's are going for on ebay.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:55 pm
by deadly_habit
I'm all about the new Teebs LP
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Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:58 pm
by wub
zosomagik wrote:He said he'd sell it to me for $200, I'm pretty sure everything works. I'll definitely check it out in-depth, but I've known the dude for basically my entire life. I'm still pretty undecided though, I would rather have a 404sx but I could scoop up that 303 for about half the price the 404's are going for on ebay.
Honestly, at that price if you buy it and don't get on with it you can sell and make your money back easily.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:06 pm
by zosomagik
True, I'm gonna go for it. Balls to the wall.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:07 pm
by nowaysj
wub wrote:
zosomagik wrote:He said he'd sell it to me for $200, I'm pretty sure everything works. I'll definitely check it out in-depth, but I've known the dude for basically my entire life. I'm still pretty undecided though, I would rather have a 404sx but I could scoop up that 303 for about half the price the 404's are going for on ebay.
Honestly, at that price if you buy it and don't get on with it you can sell and make your money back easily.
What is the market doing? I was under the impression that 303's were more highly sought after? The sound is not reproducible, the functionality is only reproducible on higher end gear, and the supply is shrinking. That sounds like collectors item, at the very least to me.

Re: Beat Music Makers

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:33 pm
by zosomagik
I seem them on ebay for between $250-$350, and the 404sx goes for between $300-$400