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Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:07 am
by synergist
vivace wrote:
synergist wrote:To me it sounds like it's lacking subbass. Could you not double up the b-line and notch it down one octave - it just isn't shaking my guts apart, which it definitely has the potential to do :D

Great little tune though, like how you've sequenced the drum patterns.
Hmmm, what system are you listening on?

My studio monitors. I did A/B and even moved around the room to make sure I wasn't sitting in a bass node - but nope, just no really deep bass (unless it's like, 20Hz, which my nearfields can't reproduce). I've not plugged in the sub since moving house because my new room has a far superior acoustic - I'll give the track a listen on my HD650s later.

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:10 am
by G31
320 plz :D

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:17 am
by djbauer
this is great, evil, dirty, shank-a-man style bass.

would love a 320 (450) if possible geeza?

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:23 am
by Sinus Sawtooth
G31 wrote:320 plz :D
djbauer wrote:this is great, evil, dirty, shank-a-man style bass.

would love a 320 (450) if possible geeza?
tracks sent :-) thanks

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:25 am
by Sinus Sawtooth
synergist wrote:
vivace wrote:
synergist wrote:To me it sounds like it's lacking subbass. Could you not double up the b-line and notch it down one octave - it just isn't shaking my guts apart, which it definitely has the potential to do :D

Great little tune though, like how you've sequenced the drum patterns.
Hmmm, what system are you listening on?

My studio monitors. I did A/B and even moved around the room to make sure I wasn't sitting in a bass node - but nope, just no really deep bass (unless it's like, 20Hz, which my nearfields can't reproduce). I've not plugged in the sub since moving house because my new room has a far superior acoustic - I'll give the track a listen on my HD650s later.
strange, I double checked the equalizer yesterday and trust me, that thing is booming in the sub sepctrum... on my KRK RP5 I do have bass, not as much with a sub ofcourse, I also checked the tune at my parents place, (harman kardon 5.1), everything was rumbeling... please keep me updated because the tune is supposed to sound good on every type of speaker/headphone...

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:28 pm
by Serotonin
This is flithy! I would love a 320

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:06 pm
by gnome
:o wow thats fantastically mixed. I wish I could make a bass as dirty as that. Great job man would love a 320

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:28 pm
by Sinus Sawtooth
Serotonin wrote:This is flithy! I would love a 320
gnome wrote::o wow thats fantastically mixed. I wish I could make a bass as dirty as that. Great job man would love a 320
tracks sent! thnx for the love!

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:54 am
by Coco Grimes
OMG Filth love it, i want it, give it to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:11 am
by synergist
Sinus Sawtooth wrote:
synergist wrote:
vivace wrote:
synergist wrote:To me it sounds like it's lacking subbass. Could you not double up the b-line and notch it down one octave - it just isn't shaking my guts apart, which it definitely has the potential to do :D

Great little tune though, like how you've sequenced the drum patterns.
Hmmm, what system are you listening on?

My studio monitors. I did A/B and even moved around the room to make sure I wasn't sitting in a bass node - but nope, just no really deep bass (unless it's like, 20Hz, which my nearfields can't reproduce). I've not plugged in the sub since moving house because my new room has a far superior acoustic - I'll give the track a listen on my HD650s later.
strange, I double checked the equalizer yesterday and trust me, that thing is booming in the sub sepctrum... on my KRK RP5 I do have bass, not as much with a sub ofcourse, I also checked the tune at my parents place, (harman kardon 5.1), everything was rumbeling... please keep me updated because the tune is supposed to sound good on every type of speaker/headphone...

ARGH POSTED A LONG REPLY AND BROWSER CRASHED RAGERAGERAGERAGE


In short, I've done some tweaks to a clip from the track, and inserted 16 bars of it into the original audio so you can A/B without having to flick between tracks. Added a few drops of my special sauce =)

I did from the second drop on (0:44 in the clip) for 16 bars - it'll be more obvious in waveform view :) It has the kind of extra 'meat' to the subbass that I'd usually expect to hear from a dubstep track. Note however that your track is already very good - it just needed a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit of extra polish to meet my picky-as-fuck standards :lol:

The track starts with the original audio, just before the breakdown before second drop, then mine begins ON the drop and then the original comes back in after that then the clip ends. To repeat, my audio comes in at 0:44 in the track... Hopefully you can hear the difference :t: I'll happily detail what I did if you like.

http://my.20hz.biz/misc/kaizoku-the_out ... ection.mp3

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:15 am
by synergist
idiotic double post, d'oh

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:11 am
by parvata
ooooooooooooooooooohh dirty! :r: :twisted: need a 320 to play out and so I can keep living... please... :u:

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:19 am
by vivace
synergist wrote:
Sinus Sawtooth wrote:
synergist wrote:
vivace wrote:
synergist wrote:To me it sounds like it's lacking subbass. Could you not double up the b-line and notch it down one octave - it just isn't shaking my guts apart, which it definitely has the potential to do :D

Great little tune though, like how you've sequenced the drum patterns.
Hmmm, what system are you listening on?

My studio monitors. I did A/B and even moved around the room to make sure I wasn't sitting in a bass node - but nope, just no really deep bass (unless it's like, 20Hz, which my nearfields can't reproduce). I've not plugged in the sub since moving house because my new room has a far superior acoustic - I'll give the track a listen on my HD650s later.
strange, I double checked the equalizer yesterday and trust me, that thing is booming in the sub sepctrum... on my KRK RP5 I do have bass, not as much with a sub ofcourse, I also checked the tune at my parents place, (harman kardon 5.1), everything was rumbeling... please keep me updated because the tune is supposed to sound good on every type of speaker/headphone...

ARGH POSTED A LONG REPLY AND BROWSER CRASHED RAGERAGERAGERAGE


In short, I've done some tweaks to a clip from the track, and inserted 16 bars of it into the original audio so you can A/B without having to flick between tracks. Added a few drops of my special sauce =)

I did from the second drop on (0:44 in the clip) for 16 bars - it'll be more obvious in waveform view :) It has the kind of extra 'meat' to the subbass that I'd usually expect to hear from a dubstep track. Note however that your track is already very good - it just needed a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit of extra polish to meet my picky-as-fuck standards :lol:

The track starts with the original audio, just before the breakdown before second drop, then mine begins ON the drop and then the original comes back in after that then the clip ends. To repeat, my audio comes in at 0:44 in the track... Hopefully you can hear the difference :t: I'll happily detail what I did if you like.

http://my.20hz.biz/misc/kaizoku-the_out ... ection.mp3
Thanks for the thoughts and effort, captain!
It's true, there's more bass in your edit. It drowns the highs and mid terribly though, the 'gritty' sound has no emphasis anymore. It could work if the mix would be altered to fit the demand, but that's a matter of taste, not a matter of better mixing in my opinion, as this destroys the impact due to a single-sided frequency spectrum (ie. no balance). You can only put so much of a frequency-band into a track, before it takes a toll on the rest. Basically, the bass is just louder in your edit. Nothing wrong with that, obviously! But I think it's a matter of taste. For good measure, I'd love to know what you did exactly :) What frequencies did you boost? What did you layer it with? Oh yeah, we did do a steep cutoff after 20 or 30Hz.. can't remember exactly..

Anyway, dubstep is indeed heavy bass-music, but it's still music.. not a means of making something rumble, if you get my meaning :) Obviously, we could've lifted the sub-layer of the bass up another notch.. maybe 2dB at most, but we choose not to for the sake of the track's balance. Really appreciate your effort, though! Cheers :)

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:49 am
by Sinus Sawtooth
Coco Grimes wrote:OMG Filth love it, i want it, give it to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
parvata wrote:ooooooooooooooooooohh dirty! :r: :twisted: need a 320 to play out and so I can keep living... please... :u:

Tracks sent, enjoy!

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:02 pm
by cruddy
Huge! I love how well the sample works with the feel of the tune. Would love a 320 man!
Great work!

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:19 pm
by zer0
320 man, this is wicked.

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:09 am
by 5-0-what
oh my holli shit balls batman that is a major piece of artillery might i add it to my arsonal i will bang the hell out of dat shit

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:12 am
by evn
Yo guys. Thought you might like to know I've mixed this tune into my glitch hop set, will be dropping it in my next dubstep set too. I'll give you the link to the dubstep set when completed, but here's my glitch hop set. It's the first glitch hop set I've ever done. Cheers for the sick beats.

http://soundcloud.com/evn/evn-hate-on-me-hater

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:49 am
by fredak
hugest. lovely breakdown! a 320?

Re: KAIZOKU - THE OUTBREAK (final mastered version)

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:57 am
by nowaysj
Can you spare a 320 for a brother?