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To me, the Vestax PDX2000's just seem really flimsy. They dont feel anywhere near as solid as a 1210 does. Plus the Vestax have silly American plugs which, from my experience, keep fucking up. Spec wise, the Vestax PDX and Stanton STR8 turntables shit all over 1210, but there is just something special about Technics.
Any turntable you can do a headspin on get's my vote!

teknyq wrote:Theirs nothing special about Technics, Everywhere is just afraid of change

I use Vestax PDX2000, Pitch range 10000x better then the shoddy +/- 8% you get on technics, torque motor owns as well, theirs not one thing
the technics do that compares.

Their main argument is their durability, but lets be honest who really goes about dropping their turntables???

I'll Just say it........Fu*k Technics

hey i've already dropped one of mine 10 years ago (it was on a ping pong table along with a couple of drunken punters at some garden party). i'll always remember that devastating moment when i saw my precious plummet to the ground and not being able to do anything to catch it!!! well moral of the story, it dropped, even bounced a bit. ended up upside down on the ground and all that happened is a a couple of surface scratches, and the cinch plugs ripped off. these things are built like a tank, it's unbelievable! to this day, my 16 year old 1200's are functioning flawlessly after numerous events and thousands of spinning hours. however newer options seem pretty cool, and i would change had i cash to spare.

ps. it's quite a simple operation to increase the pitch range on technics (little blue button under the platter) i think they go to like +/- 12%

People seem to be missing the point, technics are the industry standard. Any club you'll play in will have technics, this is the main reason to get them.

Whether or not they should be is a whole different debate. I personally think technics build quality beats any other deck.

RubiconMan wrote:

rev wrote:Stanton STR8-150 is the best turntable I have touched... stronger torque, straight tonearm and a very accurate pitch.

straight tonearm aint a good feature...

explain

See this question come up again and again. So many pretenders...

Having used all the models discussed clearly the answer is Technics; durability, proven track record, industry standard, easily servicable parts (which I doubt you'll need) - no need to go on. The fact is the other brands are not made well enough. Numark are cheap with bad styling, AVOID. The mixers are even worse. Stanton 150s, who needs mad torque and pitch +1,000,000? The key lock is a nice feature but any good DJ tries not to pitch up tunes so they sound 'wrong'.

Seriously, the only thing which would tempt me away is the Vestax PDX series, and even these are more geared toward scratching (straight tone arm, adjustable brake etc) and have nasty styling, they don't even come with tops! That said I do have a PDX2000 and am happy, time will tell on the reliability front. Had my Technics 15 years. ENOUGH SAID.

jam1 wrote:To me, the Vestax PDX2000's just seem really flimsy. They dont feel anywhere near as solid as a 1210 does. Plus the Vestax have silly American plugs which, from my experience, keep fucking up. Spec wise, the Vestax PDX and Stanton STR8 turntables shit all over 1210, but there is just something special about Technics.
Any turntable you can do a headspin on get's my vote!

Word to that. Technics might not be able to fly or cook your dinner but when it comes to just mixing tunes and being an amazing piece of equipment it gets no better.

jamesgarfield wrote:

RubiconMan wrote:straight tonearm aint a good feature...

explain

with a straight tonearm the needle sits in a different angle in the groove which will eventually lead to more record wear, in theory... in reality you will not hear a difference between a straight and s-shaped or j-shaped tonearm. the straight arms are mainly better for scratching since the straight arm construction more or less eliminates tonearm skating, so the needle has less play and hence less chance to skip. I have used straight arm turntables for years and my records haven't worn any more or less than an s-shaped arm turntable. wrongly set up cartridges/weight do a lot more damage
a lot of hifi decks also have straight arms but also an angled cartridge, so the needle sits in a more "natural" angle in the groove

Buy a pair of technics. I went through 4 sets of decks before I realised the error of my ways and just invested in a pair. Don't be tempted by gimmicks such as massive pitch shifting, because let's be honest, once you pitch shift a tune more that 8-10% it usually doesn't sound the same anyway. One thing I would say though is make sure you get the ones without a dip in the pitch slider, especially if you're mixing dubstep because most tracks are roughly 140 and the last thing you want is for it to click when you're doing any fine-tuning.