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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by qwaycee_ » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:09 am

Tehbr00talz wrote: Hey guys, first post. :o I'm relatively new to dubstep, and also relatively new to Reaper (which I have the full version of) and I'm now trying to figure out how to make my own dub tracks. -q-

I read this post and figured this would be a good start, but.. I'm stuck on the very first instruction, which is the bolded part in the quote. How do I add a sine wave? I tried heading over to the Reaper forum in hopes of figuring many things out, but, I'm rather confused. Do I add a new track, then add a new MIDI item, then add FX, like a synth or something for a sine wave effect?

Sorry if you get a lot of noobs, but.. I'm just super lost.
you're basically right.

add track
add fx
go to vsti and choose reasynth
add midi item
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open items with built in midi-editor.
draw in notes

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Tehbr00talz » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:32 am

Okay, I understand so far. :P

So.. how do I do the sine wave thing?

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by qwaycee_ » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:48 am

when you play the notes, the tone that's generated should by default be a sine wave (i think).

when played on a lower end, that's your sub.

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Tehbr00talz » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:02 am

So, do I just add an EQ then, and scoop out all frequencies and boost the lower ones?

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by AfterEmpire » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:06 am

U mean I can sound JUST like Datscision too!?!

Sweet!

I cant wait to be the next big star!!! :roll:


But how do I make teh wobblez?
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by mmmsure » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:18 am

SteX13 wrote:
Mainly sort of noises in Mt Eden - Silence. If you havent checked him out already you should hes makes real nice music.
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by amphibian » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:25 am

mmmsure wrote:
SteX13 wrote:
Mainly sort of noises in Mt Eden - Silence. If you havent checked him out already you should hes makes real nice music.
:6:
Lol i read this part and just ignored the rest.
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:51 am

what i always find funny is when people can't spell the artist names of the people they idolize/bash properly, yet they think they'll have the technical ability to recreate those sounds

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Grime Syndicate » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:12 am

I was 100% certain this was a troll... I was absolutely baffled when it turned out he was completely serious...
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Grime Syndicate » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:56 pm

So many troll keywords... Datsik, Excision, Mt. Eden (oh, by the way, anybody heard of this guy? amazing... -w- )

How did this guy avoid getting ripped apart for like a whole page, and even then, everyone went real easy on him...

What do ya gotta do to get ripped apart these days? oh yeah, just gotta post a tutorial on how to link lfo to cutoff... :wink:
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:01 am

Grime Syndicate wrote:So many troll keywords... Datsik, Excision, Mt. Eden (oh, by the way, anybody heard of this guy? amazing... -w- )

How did this guy avoid getting ripped apart for like a whole page, and even then, everyone went real easy on him...

What do ya gotta do to get ripped apart these days? oh yeah, just gotta post a tutorial on how to link lfo to cutoff... :wink:
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key ones i can remember
how do i wobble
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by ogunslinger » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:00 am

deadly habit wrote:
Grime Syndicate wrote:So many troll keywords... Datsik, Excision, Mt. Eden (oh, by the way, anybody heard of this guy? amazing... -w- )

How did this guy avoid getting ripped apart for like a whole page, and even then, everyone went real easy on him...

What do ya gotta do to get ripped apart these days? oh yeah, just gotta post a tutorial on how to link lfo to cutoff... :wink:
we need a timeline of the annoyingly overly asked questions
key ones i can remember
how do i wobble
chase and status
mt eden
borgore
datsik
excision
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:01 am

ogunslinger wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
Grime Syndicate wrote:So many troll keywords... Datsik, Excision, Mt. Eden (oh, by the way, anybody heard of this guy? amazing... -w- )

How did this guy avoid getting ripped apart for like a whole page, and even then, everyone went real easy on him...

What do ya gotta do to get ripped apart these days? oh yeah, just gotta post a tutorial on how to link lfo to cutoff... :wink:
we need a timeline of the annoyingly overly asked questions
key ones i can remember
how do i wobble
chase and status
mt eden
borgore
datsik
excision
+skrillex
that one is too new to call a trend yet

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by ogunslinger » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:06 am

deadly habit wrote:
ogunslinger wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
Grime Syndicate wrote:So many troll keywords... Datsik, Excision, Mt. Eden (oh, by the way, anybody heard of this guy? amazing... -w- )

How did this guy avoid getting ripped apart for like a whole page, and even then, everyone went real easy on him...

What do ya gotta do to get ripped apart these days? oh yeah, just gotta post a tutorial on how to link lfo to cutoff... :wink:
we need a timeline of the annoyingly overly asked questions
key ones i can remember
how do i wobble
chase and status
mt eden
borgore
datsik
excision
+skrillex
that one is too new to call a trend yet
mark my words..... someone will come and ask eventually :D

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by jaydot » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:19 am

If you fuck about enough with two detuned sine wave oscillators, bitcrushed, with slight reverb in Massive you can get that thin sort of Datsik bass sound. It's pretty easy to get If you mess around. Scream filter and Screamer osc in Massive is your friend. Kick, snare, kick-kick/snare beat and then £....
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by VirtualMark » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:27 am

From what i've read on this forum, nobodys been able to reproduce it yet. Theres lots of advice on how to do it, but i've not seen one person get that specific sound yet.

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:34 am

VirtualMark wrote:From what i've read on this forum, nobodys been able to reproduce it yet. Theres lots of advice on how to do it, but i've not seen one person get that specific sound yet.
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by harlrayner » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:16 am

SteX13 wrote:Hi I no you probably get asked a lot but I have been searching threads and only find out about wobble ect.

Im wanting to make the other grimey/dark sounds in tracks like Datsik, Xcision.

Also just any nice sounds like in Unitz-the drop.

Mainly sort of noises in Mt Eden - Silence. If you havent checked him out already you should hes makes real nice music.

But heres a link to silence so you no what sounds im looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nymjfq2kXnI

Any noise really different to a wobble. Im using massive but seriously cant create any descent noises.

Tutorial would be gratefully appreciated?

I would be very happy if someoone could point me in the right direction?

Thanks a lot :t:
Hey mate,
One way to make Datsik style bass:
Use one oscillator, turn the other two off with the blue lights and on the dropdown list of all the waves (where you find Sin-Tri, Sin-Square etc etc), choose the "Scrap Yard" option. Then play around with the "wt-position" and the "intensity" for the respective oscillator... I set mine both on max for this.
Make sure both filters are on and set them to "Daft" and "Acid". Set the fader next to the oscillator you're using to sit in the middle of "F1" and "F2".
Now click on the arrow thing on the "5 LFO" tab and drop it in the boxes on the left under both filters (only drop it in one box for each filter). Also drop it on the "Amp" knob for the oscillator that you are using. A green number "5" should appear under each one. Click once and hold down on the "5" and drag upwards, so that the green and grey lines together make a roughly 180 degree arc (this is what makes your wave wobble so experiment with this). Do this for the amp knob of your oscillator too.
You should be wobbling now. To control the way it wobbles go into the 5 LFO tab and play with the wave shape and rate and try messing around with the crossfader a bit. You can automate it with another LFO or stepper, just as you automated the cutoff filter to produce your wobble. Don't bother trying to automate the rate of your wobbles to get them to change speed, just render out a bunch at different speeds and put them together that way.
Add an eq (just click the little blue light, its next to fx 1 and fx 2 on the right) and play with the settings.
Add a little bit of the dimension expander (on the right in the drop down list of effects).


Message me if you want a screenshot of how everythings set up.
Its not exactly datsik's wobble but its a pretty good starting point and I'm pretty sure he does use Scrap Yard

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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Psychomantis » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:53 pm

harlrayner wrote:
SteX13 wrote:Hi I no you probably get asked a lot but I have been searching threads and only find out about wobble ect.

Im wanting to make the other grimey/dark sounds in tracks like Datsik, Xcision.

Also just any nice sounds like in Unitz-the drop.

Mainly sort of noises in Mt Eden - Silence. If you havent checked him out already you should hes makes real nice music.

But heres a link to silence so you no what sounds im looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nymjfq2kXnI

Any noise really different to a wobble. Im using massive but seriously cant create any descent noises.

Tutorial would be gratefully appreciated?

I would be very happy if someoone could point me in the right direction?

Thanks a lot :t:
Hey mate,
One way to make Datsik style bass:
Use one oscillator, turn the other two off with the blue lights and on the dropdown list of all the waves (where you find Sin-Tri, Sin-Square etc etc), choose the "Scrap Yard" option. Then play around with the "wt-position" and the "intensity" for the respective oscillator... I set mine both on max for this.
Make sure both filters are on and set them to "Daft" and "Acid". Set the fader next to the oscillator you're using to sit in the middle of "F1" and "F2".
Now click on the arrow thing on the "5 LFO" tab and drop it in the boxes on the left under both filters (only drop it in one box for each filter). Also drop it on the "Amp" knob for the oscillator that you are using. A green number "5" should appear under each one. Click once and hold down on the "5" and drag upwards, so that the green and grey lines together make a roughly 180 degree arc (this is what makes your wave wobble so experiment with this). Do this for the amp knob of your oscillator too.
You should be wobbling now. To control the way it wobbles go into the 5 LFO tab and play with the wave shape and rate and try messing around with the crossfader a bit. You can automate it with another LFO or stepper, just as you automated the cutoff filter to produce your wobble. Don't bother trying to automate the rate of your wobbles to get them to change speed, just render out a bunch at different speeds and put them together that way.
Add an eq (just click the little blue light, its next to fx 1 and fx 2 on the right) and play with the settings.
Add a little bit of the dimension expander (on the right in the drop down list of effects).


Message me if you want a screenshot of how everythings set up.
Its not exactly datsik's wobble but its a pretty good starting point and I'm pretty sure he does use Scrap Yard

Thanks for that i'm gonna give it a go, u mind sending me that screen shot man?
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Re: Datsik, Xcision...

Post by Tasbo » Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:49 pm

For all massive users...

Obviously I can't make a patch with his exact sound, because he resamples - (and frankly because he's a fucking genius) , but I think this is pretty close...

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