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i think it's great

as a brit i love being reminded that there are actually loads of innovative, buzzing dance music scenes in the US. we don't really see that much of them over here, beyond house, the WMC and lately the west coast shiz...

setspeed wrote:i think it's great

as a brit i love being reminded that there are actually loads of innovative, buzzing dance music scenes in the US. we don't really see that much of them over here, beyond house, the WMC and lately the west coast shiz...

Ironically, many Americans feel the same way about UK dance music.

fluffy wrote:Also for a sweet new halftime juke track, listen to Girl Unit - IRL at 160

I just did this. Very good advice.

alphacat wrote:

setspeed wrote:i think it's great

as a brit i love being reminded that there are actually loads of innovative, buzzing dance music scenes in the US. we don't really see that much of them over here, beyond house, the WMC and lately the west coast shiz...

Ironically, many Americans feel the same way about UK dance music.

so what British stuff do you mainly hear over there then? Coldplay and stuff?

...as long as it's this, it's all good with me.

Heh, unfortunately we get all the pop garbage too, yeah...

But there's often a perception among "underground" types here in the States that the UK is this hotbed of underground originality: in America, you kind of have to be a bit of a hipster in the know to be down with all of the electronic styles you guys have given the world (acid house, 2-step garage, jungle/DnB, dubstep, etc.) and many believe that these styles are clearly more interesting than anything homegrown... which is also stupid because the UK styles have roots in US sounds too, but whatever - for some people the grass is always greener on the other side, you know?

There's also a weird undercurrent to that in terms of race and class stuff that probably deserves a separate discussion in another thread, but suffice to say that some Americans feel alienated or disenfranchised by a lot of our popular dance music and want something to call their own - because they know they wouldn't make it 2 seconds in the 'hood, because they don't identify with the imagery, because they want to project the appearance of being cosmopolitan and not ghetto.

For instance, take what house music has become in a lot of places: the safe white alternative to that nasty hip-hop business. It's got a big stupid beat that's so obvious even the most rhythmically-challenged poindexter can count to 4 out loud and stomp along.

That's the most sense I've heard spoken in a while.

Music is bigger than the country you live in, but sometimes smaller than the block you live on.

alphacat wrote:
For instance, take what house music has become in a lot of places: the safe white alternative to that nasty hip-hop business. It's got a big stupid beat that's so obvious even the most rhythmically-challenged poindexter can count to 4 out loud and stomp along.

This, along with hipsters ironically dancing to electro while wearing stupid glasses and psytrance hippies seeing God while on too many drugs, kept me from enjoying dance music for many years. I just couldn't (and still can't!) identify with quote-unquote clubbing: dressing up in brand name clothes, buying bottles at rip off prices, meeting chicks with half a brain cell rattling in their brains, all to the sound of glossy music for people who don't know shit...that's not disparaging house music itself by the way, just the whole house "scene" in Montreal.

D&B was already in a nasty decline (at least the stuff getting played around here) when I was in my late teens in the early 2ks and the whole "indie dance" thing was always repulsively fake to me so I stuck to Hip-Hop, oldschool reggae/tropicalia/afrobeat/soul/funk and album oriented electronic tunes for years past because at least I could connect to those sounds in some way. One of the problems is that even when urban-dance music was quality, it was misrepresented by a trendspotter rather than given an honest chance by those who actually created it.

It's changing around here though, I go to dubstep nights and the average age is around 18-22. The kids are really making a go of it and they're way smarter than a lot of snobs give them credit for: they like big easy tunes but they'll go deep if you don't bash em over the head with it and respect em. It's given me a lot of hope for the future to be honest.

alphacat wrote:there's often a perception among "underground" types here in the States that the UK is this hotbed of underground originality: in America, you kind of have to be a bit of a hipster in the know to be down with all of the electronic styles you guys have given the world (acid house, 2-step garage, jungle/DnB, dubstep, etc.) and many believe that these styles are clearly more interesting than anything homegrown... which is also stupid because the UK styles have roots in US sounds too, but whatever - for some people the grass is always greener on the other side, you know?

There's also a weird undercurrent to that in terms of race and class stuff that probably deserves a separate discussion in another thread, but suffice to say that some Americans feel alienated or disenfranchised by a lot of our popular dance music and want something to call their own - because they know they wouldn't make it 2 seconds in the 'hood, because they don't identify with the imagery, because they want to project the appearance of being cosmopolitan and not ghetto.

yeah it's funny. over here we sometimes perceive the US as being somewhere that doesn't really 'get' dance music (sweeping generalisation alert), which is strange because it's totally at odds with the fact that many (most?) of the biggest, most legendary producers are all US heads; Derrick May, Masters At Work, Jeff Mills, Josh Wink, DJ Sneak, Derrick Carter, Joey Beltram, Armand Van Helden....

interested about the house/hiphop divide. over here hiphop isn't half as big a thing - the UK hiphop scene is very small (even if you include grime really) and it's still really 'hood' - you don't get Giggs singing "all i do is win win win" or chatting about his private jet like Rick Ross or someone might; which is great but it probably makes it a bit less accessible to your average passing fan. We've had Rihanna at number one recently so the pop-RnB thing is quite big in the cheesy bars...

ah, good old raving...

ed teach wrote:

fluffy wrote:Also for a sweet new halftime juke track, listen to Girl Unit - IRL at 160

I just did this. Very good advice.

actually no wait there's nothing much halftime about it more than the average juke track. yeah IRL at 160 pretty much just a bangin new juke track

fluffy wrote:

ed teach wrote:

fluffy wrote:Also for a sweet new halftime juke track, listen to Girl Unit - IRL at 160

I just did this. Very good advice.

actually no wait there's nothing much halftime about it more than the average juke track. yeah IRL at 160 pretty much just a bangin new juke track

am gonna try this. irl is a tune already

alphacat wrote:house music

alphacat wrote:poindexter

I like what you did there!

quidz wrote:Check this if you havent already..

http://soundcloud.com/headhunter/headhu ... ember-2009

Dj slugo is a pretty good starting point too..

Has anyone got the tracklist for this, looked everywhere, few interesting bits on there

Kinda like baltimore club on speed...

Footwork mixx:

http://www.mixcloud.com/mikep/mike-para ... kjuke-mix/

bmore & juke ftw

planetmu wrote:Footwork mixx:

http://www.mixcloud.com/mikep/mike-para ... kjuke-mix/

this is ridiculous.... safffee

Chrissy Murderbot, being the genius that he is, is doing a year of mixtapes, a different genre every week. Week 40 was Juke and its a pretty sick mix.

http://www.murderbot.com/mixtapeblog/mu ... 0-juke.mp3

Tracklist:

1. DJ Nephets; Juke N Money
2. Paul Johnson / DJ Puncho; Get Get Down Low (DJ Gant-Man Remix)
3. DJ Nephets; Down To The Ground
4. DJ D-Man; One, Two, Three, Four
5. DJ Deeon; Per-Cu-L8
6. Parris Mitchell Project feat. Waxmaster; Ghetto Shout Out
7. M.A.W. feat. India; I Can't Get No Sleep (DJ Gant-Man Remix)
8. DJ Nephets; Wanna Party
9. DJ Deeon; Freak U Rite
10. Juketastrafe; Work Baby
11. Beta SP; Bacteria (Chrissy Murderbot Remix)
12. Green Velvet feat. Russoul; Walk (DJ Gant-Man Remix)
13. N.O.R.E.; Nothin' (DJ Nephets Remix)
14. Waxmaster; Footwork
15. DJ Nephets; Juke Somebody
16. DJ Nephets & Lil Wish; Pop Drop
17. DJ Gant-Man vs. BBD; Poison (Juked Out Remix)
18. Mike Love; Nappy Headed Hoes
19. Chrissy Murderbot & DJ Gant-Man; I Nutted In You
20. Justice; Let There Be Light (DJ Funk Bounce That Ass Remix)
21. DJ Rashad & DJ Gant-Man; Juke Dat Juke Dat
22. Mic Terror; Juke Dem Hoes (Maddjazz Remix)
23. DJ Chip; Do The 40s
24. Twista; Pimp Like Me
25. DJ Lil Tal; Pop Yo Back
26. Kid Sister; Damn Girl (DJ Gant-Man Remix)
27. DJ Chip; Juke Slide
28. R. Kelly; Through The Hood (DJ Nephets Remix)
29. Waxmaster; Work Out
30. DJ Deeon; The Freaks (Remix)
31. DJ Slugo; Where The Rats
32. Chrissy Murderbot feat. Tha Basix; Red Bone (The Yoshi Track)
33. Dude N Nem; Watch My Feet (Remix feat. BNC)
34. Waxmaster; You Big Dummy
35. DJ Rashad & DJ Chi Boogie; Ay Yo Yo
36. DJ Pillsbury; Sugar Plum Fairy Dance
37. DJ Rashad; Get It Shorty
38. DJ Chi Boogie; 1,2,3,4
39. Three 6 Mafia; Don't Call Me No More (DJ D-Block Remix)
40. Traxman; Pac-Man
41. DJ Spinn & DJ Rashad; Bob It Low
42. Juketastrafe; Juke Dat Juicy Booty
43. DJ Rashad; Roy Ayers Show
44. DJ Spinn; Bounce N Break Yo Back
45. DJ Solo; Let Me See You Bounce
46. DJ Remi; Get Down On Tha Ground
47. DJ Rashad; Deep Inside '06
48. DJ Rashad; In Da Club Before 11 O'Clock
49. DJ Deeon; Like We Do
50. Maddjazz; Beeper Juke Remix
51. DJ Diamond; Footwork Twist Em Up
52. DJ Gant-Man; Juke Dat Girl From The Back (DJ Rashad Remix)
53. DJ Spinn; Feelin' U
54. Juketastrafe; Get Retarded
55. DJ Deeon; Debo Juke Slide
56. DJ Spinn & DJ Rashad; That Booty
57. DJ Spinn; Mario Revenge
58. Traxman; Newports
59. DJ Slugo; 114799 (The Godzilla Track)
60. Mariah Carey; Always Be My Baby (Thunderous Olympian Remix)


Also DJ Nate's got some stuff coming out on Planet Mu which is sounding good.