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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by deadly_habit » Fri May 07, 2010 5:08 pm

FSTZ wrote:^^I agree

if you have a team you can probably handle 2 or 3 releases per month
yea it's fun explaining that to people

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by jsills » Fri May 07, 2010 5:44 pm

solid idea basic. im pretty familiar with bandcamp so if you hosted it there i wouldnt mind maintaining the site, wordpress i know nothing about but im sure its equally easy. so theres my contribution, i wish is wasnt so busy myself or id be down to help out more.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by kaiori breathe » Fri May 07, 2010 5:49 pm

If people get this off the ground what's going to happen with regards to getting it noticed outside of the forum? I could probably help in this area but not much else.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by jsills » Fri May 07, 2010 5:56 pm

^^ that would be dope.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by __________ » Fri May 07, 2010 5:57 pm

Basic A wrote:
antics wrote:Does wordpress do soundcloud embedding?
No but why?
Nah, you can embed anything you want into a Wordpress install. Flash, whatever...

If you're talking about wordpress.com e.g having http://www.wordpress.com/dubstepforumlabel then no, you can't embed fuck all to be honest...wordpress.com is shit in that sense if you ask me, and would be totally UNSUITABLE for a record label because you just don't have enough control.

If you're running a Wordpress install on your own hosting account, then you can do anything you want with it.

I run about 7 Wordpress powered sites. I dunno if I'm up for buying a domain name for this yet, they're about £15 for a .com, but I'd be happy to host the site and maintain the backend of the install.

If everybody paypals 75p to someone, you could get a domain name. Community + money = difficult though, but if you ask me, label + communal + free = difficult too, but I'll be happy to help with hosting and maintenance/design.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by FSTZ » Fri May 07, 2010 6:02 pm

yeah and if this is going to be done properly you really should set your sights on Beatport, Juno, etc...

not bandcamp

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by abZ » Fri May 07, 2010 6:02 pm

From my experience I have found that you need to have ONE guy to be the boss. When no one is going be getting compensated for anything you will find people will tend to drag their feet, you need one guy that builds fires under peoples asses and makes sure things get done. Also you are going to need mastering. You are going to need free mastering that is done well or the label will not work. Good luck on that one. Got too much going on running my own label but am available for advice and also head the advice of FSTZ and whoever else on here has experience. No money is definitely the way to go unless you want to maybe make them real cheap you could put them on digital-tunes or something. Any money that is made could go to fund a premium soundcloud account and stuff like that.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by FSTZ » Fri May 07, 2010 6:04 pm

oh and whatever you do...

do not sign on with just "any distro company" *coughSYMPHONICcough*

I got out from under my deal with them... but they did not make it easy

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by Basic A » Fri May 07, 2010 6:08 pm

FSTZ wrote:yeah and if this is going to be done properly you really should set your sights on Beatport, Juno, etc...

not bandcamp
Listen... I want to start my own label one day, in the far, far, far off future. Thats not what this is. If I wanted to start a paid service of any sort, I wouldnt suggest we use the forum name. That wrong. I have no stock in this community to do that. If we were going to do this it would be FREE

I really think everyone who posted in here with every few exceptions have totally missed the point.

And you guys are some greedy s.o.b.s

I dont wanna do this right. Im not trying to start the next hyperdub. Im not trying to start a label. I wanted to publish a few free rar's of the good music that goes around here.

Quit overcomplicating the idea.

Ive almost lost interest entirely from the comments about stuff like that.
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by Sirius » Fri May 07, 2010 6:22 pm

k.... all that said and done, who wants to make a label??
hahahaha sorry bro, had to! :mrgreen:
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by FSTZ » Fri May 07, 2010 6:34 pm

Basic A wrote:
FSTZ wrote:yeah and if this is going to be done properly you really should set your sights on Beatport, Juno, etc...

not bandcamp
Listen... I want to start my own label one day, in the far, far, far off future. Thats not what this is. If I wanted to start a paid service of any sort, I wouldnt suggest we use the forum name. That wrong. I have no stock in this community to do that. If we were going to do this it would be FREE

I really think everyone who posted in here with every few exceptions have totally missed the point.

And you guys are some greedy s.o.b.s

I dont wanna do this right. Im not trying to start the next hyperdub. Im not trying to start a label. I wanted to publish a few free rar's of the good music that goes around here.

Quit overcomplicating the idea.

Ive almost lost interest entirely from the comments about stuff like that.
umm ok

when you said...

"Communal Netlabel"

I assumed you meant a label

either dive in or stay out of the water...

if you wanna put out a rar pack of substandard dubstep then do it

if you wanna start a label that acts as a conduit for talented artists to get their music to aspiring dj's... start a label

I'll leave it alone...

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by deadly_habit » Fri May 07, 2010 6:36 pm

http://tentativerecordings.com/grooki/
*cough* have domain and space
and this link will disappear after a few hrs since some signed some not done yet ;)

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by Basic A » Fri May 07, 2010 6:48 pm

FSTZ wrote:
Basic A wrote:
FSTZ wrote:yeah and if this is going to be done properly you really should set your sights on Beatport, Juno, etc...

not bandcamp
Listen... I want to start my own label one day, in the far, far, far off future. Thats not what this is. If I wanted to start a paid service of any sort, I wouldnt suggest we use the forum name. That wrong. I have no stock in this community to do that. If we were going to do this it would be FREE

I really think everyone who posted in here with every few exceptions have totally missed the point.

And you guys are some greedy s.o.b.s

I dont wanna do this right. Im not trying to start the next hyperdub. Im not trying to start a label. I wanted to publish a few free rar's of the good music that goes around here.

Quit overcomplicating the idea.

Ive almost lost interest entirely from the comments about stuff like that.
umm ok

when you said...

"Communal Netlabel"

I assumed you meant a label

either dive in or stay out of the water...

if you wanna put out a rar pack of substandard dubstep then do it

if you wanna start a label that acts as a conduit for talented artists to get their music to aspiring dj's... start a label

I'll leave it alone...

IDMF Label >>> Tell me those guys are putting out 'substandard' music jsut because its free.

Whatever.

As is the history of bulletin boards...

Someone had a good idea, and between moaners and people wanting to add there 2cents worth of overeleaborting it....

This is never going to happen.

Fidonet.

stop it. Either back the idea or dont. You didnt have to slate it. and you dont need to add your 2 cents.

Move along. Im never gonna do this because you epople have already made it way to complicated.

So just let my thread die.

Please.
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by FSTZ » Fri May 07, 2010 6:55 pm

I said...
FSTZ wrote:I'll be glad to help
and I offered some advice

you flew off the handle

I'd still be willing to help with this idea even if it's a free netlabel

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by abZ » Fri May 07, 2010 7:01 pm

FSTZ wrote:oh and whatever you do...

do not sign on with just "any distro company" *coughSYMPHONICcough*

I got out from under my deal with them... but they did not make it easy
Dang bro I can't complain about anything with Symphonic.

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by Basic A » Fri May 07, 2010 7:05 pm

Im not flying off the handle man Im just getting a bit aggravated at this with forums... Been dealing with it for years, like I siad, fidonet... One person has an idea, then the next person misinterprets the idea and jumps to hit 'reply' and tell me how I should be spending money on something that should be a simple forum concept and making money off it n bleh bleh bleh... people run with an idea until it dies.

I started this thread because some of the other boards Im a member of have this. A free wordpress account is a very simple frontend, so that I dont have to register domains, pay for things, ect.

As said in like the O.P. or seond down or something this wouldnt be paid so stop suggesting payment/selling/ect.

Stop suggesting anything that isnt free.

I guess I jsut dont get it because I explained in the first couple posts what I was after.

people like you n 10bag n ect. are ust classic forum members, leaping at a chance to throw your 2 cents into an idea, and over-ellaborate it. It kills the ideas when that happens. One person says 'Netlabel' and then people start spouting off suggestions about paying for stuff and all these different features n bleh bleh bleh... when all I wanted was a SIMPLE Netlabel.

Why stuff never gets done on forums.
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by kaiori breathe » Fri May 07, 2010 7:05 pm

This seems to have degenerated a bit since I last came in. So ima try and give a bit of positive input here:

I'd be happy to help in any capacity regardless of the eventual form this takes. So if anybody wants to get it off the ground (I'd try to push it getting off the ground myself but I have no experience in the area) feel free to PM me and I'll try to get some literary attention on the whole thing when it's off the ground and I'll try to contribute some tracks even if they're going for free.

I'd try to help make this happen but I genuinely just don't have the experience or the knowledge of the scene to help in any way other than getting a bit off attention on it once it's up and going.

EDIT: I'd suggest ignoring the majority of posters in here and doing whatever you want Basic A, and letting it take the form you originally wanted. PM some of the people who seem genuinely interested in your idea and get a small discussion group going with like minded people instead of letting the greedy/those who over complicate the idea and those who want the idea expanded ruin what you wanted in the first place.

This is a great idea in whatever form it takes. And the people here should be grateful of your enthusiasm and interest in the area instead of trying to capitalize on your idea.
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by FSTZ » Fri May 07, 2010 7:06 pm

abZ wrote:Dang bro I can't complain about anything with Symphonic.
yeah man...

they weren't for me

I prefer a better revenue split, getting paid monthly, and up-to the minute sales reporting during the sales period...

oh and how about those Q1 royalty reports that we havent seen yet?

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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by Basic A » Fri May 07, 2010 7:14 pm

Look, im going to PM dubway about setting up the following system, and ideally Ill contacting the few of you who didnt sidetrack this to help...

Ill be proposing the following to dubway. If you dont like it thats kinda tough...

1. A Worspess free acocount for a frontend, where tracklists, artwork, and links to downloads will be displayed as simple html posts.

2. All .rars to be hosted on rapidshare/mediafire.

3. Everything published and used in process will be free of charge.

4. Packs will be themed, and polls started to determine who is ultimately selected.

Those who want to help with THAT PROJECT (not a crazy complicated real label buisness bleh bleh bleh) Please PM me.
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Re: Communal Netlabel?

Post by __________ » Fri May 07, 2010 7:19 pm

Basic A wrote:people like you n 10bag n ect. are ust classic forum members, leaping at a chance to throw your 2 cents into an idea, and over-ellaborate it. It kills the ideas when that happens. One person says 'Netlabel' and then people start spouting off suggestions about paying for stuff and all these different features n bleh bleh bleh... when all I wanted was a SIMPLE Netlabel.
OK man, you don't have to use the webspace or help I offered for free. If you think your idea is good, it'd be worth buying a domain for. It makes a big difference.
If you want to push unmastered mp3 .zips through a free zshare/mediafire account and a wordpress.com/dubstepforumdotcomfreenetlabel blog, go for it. I don't think that would do any proper talent any proper justice.

If you're going to do it, do it properly.

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