Just bought a Mac - Useful Software?

[Moxxiedubstep]

I cant stand Mac's ,even though I have a Powerbook G4. But on topic, Id say get Cubase. Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey and really not as user friendly as Cubase. The automation and sidechaining in Cubase is straight forward in comparison to the ole "Bus,Route and Sends" ordeal. But besides those DAW's. The rest are garbage. With an exception to Renoise.

Nope, Im def' not a Ableton fan.

no,no,no and no....logic is chepaer than cubase....(and better:)

they cost the same (and that's your opinion man)

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Apple-Logic ... 1493256.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Steinberg-C ... 1435664.gc


umm...looks like Logic cost more too me there. js

[lazermouse]

umm...looks like Logic cost more too me there. js

get your checked.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Apple-Logic ... 1466905.gc

[wirez]

I cant stand Mac's ,even though I have a Powerbook G4. But on topic, Id say get Cubase. Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey and really not as user friendly as Cubase. The automation and sidechaining in Cubase is straight forward in comparison to the ole "Bus,Route and Sends" ordeal. But besides those DAW's. The rest are garbage. With an exception to Renoise.

Nope, Im def' not a Ableton fan.

no,no,no and no....logic is chepaer than cubase....(and better:)

they cost the same (and that's your opinion man)

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Apple-Logic ... 1493256.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Steinberg-C ... 1435664.gc


umm...looks like Logic cost more too me there. js

You're annoying. Nobody cares what you do and don't like mate, go argue about how much you hate Logic on the Cubase forum with possible like-minded people (but then again, you won't find any serious producer there who will sit around and aruge which is better).

[Moxxiedubstep]

You're annoying. Nobody cares what you do and don't like mate, go argue about how much you hate Logic on the Cubase forum with possible like-minded people (but then again, you won't find any serious producer there who will sit around and aruge which is better).

LOL damn theres some real clean cut retards on this thing. The previous debate was the COST of logic vs. cubase. No one is hating on Logic.
I own Logic 8.

"I cant stand Mac's ,even though I have a Powerbook G4. But on topic, Id say get Cubase. Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey and really not as user friendly as Cubase. The automation and sidechaining in Cubase is straight forward in comparison to the ole "Bus,Route and Sends" ordeal. But besides those DAW's. The rest are garbage. With an exception to Renoise.

Nope, Im def' not a Ableton fan."

get your checked.

[pirate exposer]

You're annoying. Nobody cares what you do and don't like mate, go argue about how much you hate Logic on the Cubase forum with possible like-minded people (but then again, you won't find any serious producer there who will sit around and aruge which is better).

LOL damn theres some real clean cut retards on this thing. The previous debate was the COST of logic vs. cubase. No one is hating on Logic.
I own Logic 8.

"I cant stand Mac's ,even though I have a Powerbook G4. But on topic, Id say get Cubase. Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey and really not as user friendly as Cubase. The automation and sidechaining in Cubase is straight forward in comparison to the ole "Bus,Route and Sends" ordeal. But besides those DAW's. The rest are garbage. With an exception to Renoise.

Nope, Im def' not a Ableton fan."

get your checked.

I had to register to expose this clown. Moxxiedubstep get the fuck outta here you pirating fassy.

ABOUT MOXXIE™ [ABSTRAKT DUBSTEP] OFFICIAL MYSPACE PAGE
Audio Weapons:

FL 9 XXL Signature Edition
Presonus Studio One Pro
Cubase 5.1
Deckadance 1.5
Renoise 2.0
Recycle

AND NOW ADD Logic 8 to that list.


Do we need to add up this shit? Do we? Sure why not, I've got nothing to do and my rice isn't quite done boiling yet

FL Signature Edition - $300 (.........?)
Studio One - $300 (.......?)
Cubase $499
Logic - $499
Deckadance $179 for the Club Edition, which I assume you have because you're a big time producer, of Scott Storch proportions, with mad money to buy 5 different DAWS.
Renoise $80
Recycle $199

Grand Total $2056. Really??? I mean....REALLY? What's your workflow like? You must be a mastermind!

*Create a drum pattern in FL, chop it in Renoise, chop it some more in Recycle, come up with a 3 note riff where 1 note gets played in Studio One, one note gets played in Cubase, and one note gets played in Logic. Then throw a party for skanky underage girls using Deckadance, in your moms basement.

FUCK OFF MOXXIE.











I am PIRATE EXPOSER, a former pirate myself, but I have seen the light and abandoned my dishonourable ways. Thank the Lord I have changed my behaviour. My calling is to now expose all software pirates.

[wirez]

^^Lmao this new character is cracking me some serious jokes^^ MUST be a current forum user.

[Moxxiedubstep]

I had to register to expose this clown. Moxxiedubstep get the fuck outta here you pirating fassy.

Do we need to add up this shit? Do we? Sure why not, I've got nothing to do and my rice isn't quite done boiling yet

FL Signature Edition - $300 (.........?)
Studio One - $300 (.......?)
Cubase $499
Logic - $499
Deckadance $179 for the Club Edition, which I assume you have because you're a big time producer, of Scott Storch proportions, with mad money to buy 5 different DAWS.
Renoise $80
Recycle $199

Grand Total $2056. Really??? I mean....REALLY? What's your workflow like? You must be a mastermind!

*Create a drum pattern in FL, chop it in Renoise, chop it some more in Recycle, come up with a 3 note riff where 1 note gets played in Studio One, one note gets played in Cubase, and one note gets played in Logic. Then throw a party for skanky underage girls using Deckadance, in your moms basement.

FUCK OFF MOXXIE.

I am PIRATE EXPOSER, a former pirate myself, but I have seen the light and abandoned my dishonourable ways. Thank the Lord I have changed my behaviour. My calling is to now expose all software pirates.

LOL wth? So i geuss because you have an actual job thats pays alot, having a large amount of software means youre a "pirate" .
YAY I got some hardcore hater. And the the steps you described are by no means what i do.

Deckadance I use for changing the bpm rate of a sample, Just like how people use turntables and record through edison, except i use mp3's.

I forgot to add to that list i have Ableton Live suite 8 , Sonar 8, Sony Acid Pro, Reaper and Reason 4. OH MAN i must be some hardcore software pirate. ::jerking motion::

Haters are only closet admires

[Moxxiedubstep]

^^Lmao this new character is cracking me some serious jokes^^ MUST be a current forum user.

Haha. All in fun. but really. I never mentioned I hated Logic.

[wirez]

Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey

I think it's worth every penny. You're getting opinionated and hating on the makers for making something well worth the money seem like it should be sold for less.

and really not as user friendly as Cubase.

Erm yeh, because everybody wants to open their vst in a separate window instead of straight onto their channel in the main page. I've been informed that this has changed since the most recent version but I can think of a thousand more things that makes Logic more 'user friendly' in my opinion, but as I've used the program through 4 different versions I'm pretty sure it IS going to be the most user friendly DAW for me to use, because I know how to use it.

The automation and sidechaining in Cubase is straight forward in comparison to the ole "Bus,Route and Sends" ordeal.

What makes automation in Cubase so much more straight forward than pressing the 'A' button and automating? Or even just changing the automation onto write or touch mode and automating away As for sidechaining, the way you mentioned it isn't the only way to automate and if you're using audio as a trigger in Logic, how could it be any more simple? I'm not going to lie I've never tried sidechaining in Cubase but doing it through busses in Logic seems far from complicated in my eyes.

Nope, Im def' not a Ableton fan."

I don't use Ableton myself, but am getting into it for out of studio work. If you find a DAW that can handle studio and live performance as well as Ableton evidentally does then congratulations to you.

get your checked.

I'm sure you can now appreciate what I was saying.

[pirate exposer]

MAFUCKAZ I BE A...



RESPEK TO ALL...

[wirez]

Deckadance I use for changing the rate of a sample, Just like how people use turntables and record through edison, except i use mp3's.

Sorry if it looks like I'm picking at you now, but WTF

[Moxxiedubstep]

Logic 8 or 9 is good too but pricey

I think it's worth every penny. You're getting opinionated and hating on the makers for making something well worth the money seem like it should be sold for less.

[quote/]

For what youre paying and how much the software is,is fluctuated by the general market. Hence being pricey (MSRP). it has nothing to do with the makers.
As you mentioned you havent used a current version of Cubase so Im disregarding all the other comments you made.

Really, now youre just crying over spilled milk. So lets get back on topic.

[deadly_habit]

jesus christ not the daw wars again

[Moxxiedubstep]

Deckadance I use for changing the rate of a sample, Just like how people use turntables and record through edison, except i use mp3's.

Sorry if it looks like I'm picking at you now, but WTF

Yea let me edit that , I orignally meant BPM rate. since I dont work with records I work with mp3. so id take a instrumental mp3 and change the bpm to match my project and then chop it or whateve. Alot of people use edison to record vinyl samples and such.

[wirez]

Deckadance I use for changing the rate of a sample, Just like how people use turntables and record through edison, except i use mp3's.

Sorry if it looks like I'm picking at you now, but WTF

Yea let me edit that , I orignally meant BPM rate. since I dont work with records I work with mp3. so id take a instrumental mp3 and change the bpm to match my project and then chop it or whateve. Alot of people use edison to record vinyl samples and such.

Oh right and Logic isn't user friendly lol even though you change BPM rates of MP3's out of your DAW

Sorry if I'm getting you wrong here but what you're saying is that when you want to sample something out of a track and the BPM of it doesn't match your projects, you import the track you're sampling into deckadance so you can change the tempo of it, then import it back into Cubase? I sort of understand that if deckadance is good and simple for changing tempos, but it doesn't say much for timestretch/pitchshift functions in Cubase.... Your workflow must be slowed right down by flicking through those programs, damn man... That sounds like a userbility flaw...

Or maybe because you've bought and played with so many DAW's you've forgotten to learn all of the functions of one and all of your userbility comments are voided because something as complicated as a DAW isn't going to be simple if you don't bother learning how it works

[Moxxiedubstep]

Nope, I dont use time streching on instrumentals and acapellas solely. It think of time stretching merely to fine tune things.
I could rant all day about timestretching and pitch shifting. But theres no reason for me to.

[wirez]

Nope, I dont use time streching on instrumentals and acapellas solely. It think of time stretching merely to fine tune things.
I could rant all day about timestretching and pitch shifting. But theres no reason for me to.

Are you aware of how Deckadance changes the BPM of the tracks you import?

"Beatmatching is a disc jockey technique of pitch shifting or timestretching a track to match its tempo to that of the currently playing track i.e. the kicks and snares in two house records hit at the same time when both records are played simultaneously. Beatmatching is a component of mixing which employs beatmatching combined with equalization, attention to phrasing and track selection in an attempt to make a single mix that flows together and has a good structure."

[Moxxiedubstep]

Nope, I dont use time streching on instrumentals and acapellas solely. It think of time stretching merely to fine tune things.
I could rant all day about timestretching and pitch shifting. But theres no reason for me to.

Are you aware of how Deckadance changes the BPM of the tracks you import?

"Beatmatching is a disc jockey technique of pitch shifting or timestretching a track to match its tempo to that of the currently playing track i.e. the kicks and snares in two house records hit at the same time when both records are played simultaneously. Beatmatching is a component of mixing which employs beatmatching combined with equalization, attention to phrasing and track selection in an attempt to make a single mix that flows together and has a good structure."

As you were saying why i dont do this in Cubase alone. you just answered your own question. Its just what I prefer doing. Each its own.

Youre not telling me anything I dont already know. so why continue?

[wirez]

Nope, I dont use time streching on instrumentals and acapellas solely. It think of time stretching merely to fine tune things.
I could rant all day about timestretching and pitch shifting. But theres no reason for me to.

Are you aware of how Deckadance changes the BPM of the tracks you import?

"Beatmatching is a disc jockey technique of pitch shifting or timestretching a track to match its tempo to that of the currently playing track i.e. the kicks and snares in two house records hit at the same time when both records are played simultaneously. Beatmatching is a component of mixing which employs beatmatching combined with equalization, attention to phrasing and track selection in an attempt to make a single mix that flows together and has a good structure."

As you were saying why i dont do this in Cubase alone. you just answered your own question. Its just what I prefer doing. Each its own.

Youre not telling me anything I dont already know. so why continue?

I'm telling you that you're contradicting yourself, which you obviously don't know. You said you don't use pitch shifting or time stretching on acapellas or instrumentals but all you're doing in Deckadance is either timestretching or pitch shifting.

[Moxxiedubstep]

No i didnt. I said i dont use time stretching "Solely" , in terms with Cubase. Please read everything before making accusations