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Pistonsbeneath
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:46 am
wolf89 wrote:Really? You think that it's not all just a marketing ploy on Gaga and her labels behalf?
seeing as the majority of their audience wouldnt have a clue about any of this stuff no absolutely not..
they are pushing it to see just how desensitized people are ....they can put out a video like this and nobody realizes
did you even watch it?
do you even know what were talking about?
people worship the vaccuous in this day and age and they also worship sex....put those 2 elements together and you can push anything into peoples heads
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by particle-jim » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:49 am
wolf89 wrote:Really? You think that it's not all just a marketing ploy on Gaga and her labels behalf?
no as the same themes permeate many other "pop" videos by the likes of beyonce (sweet dreams), rihanna (russian roulette), chritina aguilaira (not myself tonight) etc...
besides, who owns her label?
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:55 am
Pistonsbeneath wrote:
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
It's things like this that make me go
"oh yeah... right..."
Besides couldn't she actually just be more of an artist than people give her credit for?
I mean one of my mates who listens purely to black metal claims she's a genius and knows what she's doing and is fucking with commercial music/media and shit.
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:57 am
particle-jim wrote:wolf89 wrote:Really? You think that it's not all just a marketing ploy on Gaga and her labels behalf?
no as the same themes permeate many other "pop" videos by the likes of beyonce (sweet dreams),
This is the only one I've seen and I can't see it that much to be honest...
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:01 am
wolf89 wrote:Pistonsbeneath wrote:
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
It's things like this that make me go
"oh yeah... right..."
Besides couldn't she actually just be more of an artist than people give her credit for?
I mean one of my mates who listens purely to black metal claims she's a genius and knows what she's doing and is fucking with commercial music/media and shit.
fucking say that all you like
watch the very end of the video and offer another explanation as to whats happening
if youre not gonna watch it then you dont have a right to an opinion
the end she clearly shifts and has scales...if youre just gonna focus on that then youre just another typical....ooo ooo reptilians lolololol idiot
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:04 am
Pistonsbeneath wrote:wolf89 wrote:Pistonsbeneath wrote:
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
It's things like this that make me go
"oh yeah... right..."
Besides couldn't she actually just be more of an artist than people give her credit for?
I mean one of my mates who listens purely to black metal claims she's a genius and knows what she's doing and is fucking with commercial music/media and shit.
fucking say that all you like
watch the very end of the video and offer another explanation as to whats happening
if youre not gonna watch it then you dont have a right to an opinion
the end she clearly shifts and has scales...if youre just gonna focus on that then youre just another typical....ooo ooo reptilians lolololol idiot
firstly I have watched it
and secondly Reptilians? Seriously?
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by HamCrescendo » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:09 am
Is it not at all possible that people know that this symbolism shit gets the internet talking about the videos so they stick it in as a way of getting more hits/bit of a joke?
Also, the occult is cool. It has cool imagery. Many artists/directors may use this imagery alot because they think it is cool. The dark fad is the in-thing at the moment. Are there as many videos from 5/6 years ago with the same symbolism? If there is feel free to correct me, but otherwise have the "elite" only just gained control of the music video industry?
You can call me blind or whatever, but I dont buy it. Sorry guys.
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:09 am
danrev wrote:Is it not at all possible that people know that this symbolism shit gets the internet talking about the videos so they stick it in as a way of getting more hits/bit of a joke?
Also, the occult is cool. It has cool imagery. Many artists/directors may use this imagery alot because they think it is cool. The dark fad is the in-thing at the moment. Are there as many videos from 5/6 years ago with the same symbolism? If there is feel free to correct me, but otherwise have the "elite" only just gained control of the music video industry?
You can call me blind or whatever, but I dont buy it. Sorry guys.
This sums it up nicely.
Couldn't they just be milking the imagery for what it's worth and possibly trying to stir up discussion. I mean look how many people have watched it in here because of this.
and yeah maybe this sort of imagery has become kind of cool and weird and so is being used a lot currently?
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by xarcane » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:13 am
She is a genius. Just an evil one...
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by wubstep » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:23 am
You know the drummer of black metal band Bathroy directed her videos?
Problem solved.
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:26 am
wubstep wrote:You know the drummer of black metal band Bathroy directed her videos?
Problem solved.
Fucking explains it all.
Ooohh it's all control of the population
no it's metal head directing a pop video. One from a band who are really into the occult, all sorts of mythology and symbolism. They're named after Countess Bathory for fuck's sake. Of course he's gonna do shit like this.
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:35 am
wolf89 wrote:Pistonsbeneath wrote:wolf89 wrote:Pistonsbeneath wrote:
and she turns into a reptilian at the end...did noone see that?
It's things like this that make me go
"oh yeah... right..."
Besides couldn't she actually just be more of an artist than people give her credit for?
I mean one of my mates who listens purely to black metal claims she's a genius and knows what she's doing and is fucking with commercial music/media and shit.
fucking say that all you like
watch the very end of the video and offer another explanation as to whats happening
if youre not gonna watch it then you dont have a right to an opinion
the end she clearly shifts and has scales...if youre just gonna focus on that then youre just another typical....ooo ooo reptilians lolololol idiot
firstly I have watched it
and secondly Reptilians? Seriously?

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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:39 am
DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:43 am
wolf89 wrote:DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND
firstly that detail is so fucking irrelevant....why wouldnt someone from his background get to be an insider?
and secondly youre wrong and i am right merely because you refused to admit she shifted into a reptilian in the video...she did...as you can see
all i was saying was she did this IN THE VIDEO but you just said 'reptilians? seriously?'
so can you at least do me the courtesy of admitting that in the video DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND AND THEREFORE NOT PART OF ANY CONSPIRACY that this occurs?
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:51 am
Pistonsbeneath wrote:wolf89 wrote:DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND
firstly that detail is so fucking irrelevant....why wouldnt someone from his background get to be an insider?
and secondly youre wrong and i am right merely because you refused to admit she shifted into a reptilian in the video...she did...as you can see
all i was saying was she did this IN THE VIDEO but you just said 'reptilians? seriously?'
so can you at least do me the courtesy of admitting that in the video DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND AND THEREFORE NOT PART OF ANY CONSPIRACY that this occurs?
I didn't say that the reptillian change didn't happen I just think it's stupid. You misunderstood me.
and you honestly think that it's not that a member of a band obsessed with dark cult imagery and religion could just into that sort of shit and he's an insider? I mean if he made videos like that for Bathory you wouldn't give a fuck. It's just now he's using that sort of imagery with Lady Gaga (who believe it or not is all about selling herself with imagery and controversy, ever seen her old jazz lounge performances from before she became gaga? It makes it obvious she's just trying to get fame and money now) who happens to be famous it's all got another meaning behind it.
I honestly laughed at the whole drummer from a legendary early black metal band being an insider thing. Do you nothing of the band?
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:59 am
sorry you saying 'reptilians...seriously?' maybe wasnt clear from your side?
it seemed like you were saying there was no occurence in the video...in fact thats pretty much how anybody could take it
maybe next time say...oh yeah i can see its in there but i just think is silly to make sure youre understood
and yes i have seen her jazzy stuff under her real name....i think shes hypnotised now and merely a pawn
unless you know that guy personally you have nothing to say he isnt an insider....the amount of things in this video go beyond dark occult imagery and veer more towards being almost a parody of how the entertainment industry works...its as if theyre laughing at the audience they have sedated to such a degree they dont even notice whats happening under their noses...
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:02 am
Pistonsbeneath wrote:sorry you saying 'reptilians...seriously?' maybe wasnt clear from your side?
it seemed like you were saying there was no occurence in the video...in fact thats pretty much how anybody could take it
maybe next time say...oh yeah i can see its in there but i just think is silly to make sure youre understood
and yes i have seen her jazzy stuff under her real name....i think shes hypnotised now and merely a pawn
unless you know that guy personally you have nothing to say he isnt an insider....the amount of things in this video go beyond dark occult imagery and veer more towards being almost a parody of how the entertainment industry works...its as if theyre laughing at the audience they have sedated to such a degree they dont even notice whats happening under their noses...
and you don't think that the guy could have made it to be like that for his own personal enjoyment?
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by HamCrescendo » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:08 am
Pistonsbeneath wrote:wolf89 wrote:DIRECTED BY DRUMMER FROM BLACK METAL BAND
firstly that detail is so fucking irrelevant....why wouldnt someone from his background get to be an insider?
Why would a drummer from a black metal band have to be an insider to make a occult-like video? I don't understand why you assume the far more complicated scenario.
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by Pistonsbeneath » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:11 am
wolf89 wrote:Pistonsbeneath wrote:sorry you saying 'reptilians...seriously?' maybe wasnt clear from your side?
it seemed like you were saying there was no occurence in the video...in fact thats pretty much how anybody could take it
maybe next time say...oh yeah i can see its in there but i just think is silly to make sure youre understood
and yes i have seen her jazzy stuff under her real name....i think shes hypnotised now and merely a pawn
unless you know that guy personally you have nothing to say he isnt an insider....the amount of things in this video go beyond dark occult imagery and veer more towards being almost a parody of how the entertainment industry works...its as if theyre laughing at the audience they have sedated to such a degree they dont even notice whats happening under their noses...
and you don't think that the guy could have made it to be like that for his own personal enjoyment?
right now and at that level with her market i think the label she is signed to that is owned by a company owned by somebody else with a chain that leads up to lockheed-martin and beyond i very much doubt he would be brought in so he could make a video merely for his own amusement as this shit is too important to them..
im wasting my time with you anyway as you strike me as one of these people that doesn't want to know and wants to instead throw in red herrings just so you can avoid really answering the tougher questions
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by wolf89 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:17 am
And you strike me as a gullible fool.
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