Page 3 of 7

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:36 am
by nowaysj
You can be infected and not know it, right?

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:15 am
by Depone
nowaysj wrote:You can be infected and not know it, right?
yeah thats how trojans work right? they are a back-door jobbie (no pun intended)
Im on a mac, and although the OS is really secure, im worried if it could effect me.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:22 am
by nowaysj
I'm straight. My immune system is healthy because of the constant threats my os has to survive. It's a guns, germs, steel kind of thing.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:37 am
by Phigure
Depone wrote:
nowaysj wrote:You can be infected and not know it, right?
yeah thats how trojans work right? they are a back-door jobbie (no pun intended)
Im on a mac, and although the OS is really secure, im worried if it could effect me.
You're fine. You have to remember that attacks like this still require some sort of major browser vulnerability to exploit, and if it were one well known enough to be used in an attack, it's pretty much certain it's well known enough to have been patched promptly. The only people who could have something to worry about are IE5 or IE6 users, as those are ancient and definitely have some holes that haven't been fixed. If you're using even only a relatively up to date version of Opera, Chrome, Firefox, IE8, Safari you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:51 am
by Ongelegen
finally working :D

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:06 am
by wirez
Phigure wrote:
Depone wrote:
nowaysj wrote:You can be infected and not know it, right?
yeah thats how trojans work right? they are a back-door jobbie (no pun intended)
Im on a mac, and although the OS is really secure, im worried if it could effect me.
You're fine. You have to remember that attacks like this still require some sort of major browser vulnerability to exploit, and if it were one well known enough to be used in an attack, it's pretty much certain it's well known enough to have been patched promptly. The only people who could have something to worry about are IE5 or IE6 users, as those are ancient and definitely have some holes that haven't been fixed. If you're using even only a relatively up to date version of Opera, Chrome, Firefox, IE8, Safari you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
What if you ignored the browsers warning a few times? :o

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:09 pm
by 3za
wirez wrote:
Phigure wrote:
Depone wrote:
nowaysj wrote:You can be infected and not know it, right?
yeah thats how trojans work right? they are a back-door jobbie (no pun intended)
Im on a mac, and although the OS is really secure, im worried if it could effect me.
You're fine. You have to remember that attacks like this still require some sort of major browser vulnerability to exploit, and if it were one well known enough to be used in an attack, it's pretty much certain it's well known enough to have been patched promptly. The only people who could have something to worry about are IE5 or IE6 users, as those are ancient and definitely have some holes that haven't been fixed. If you're using even only a relatively up to date version of Opera, Chrome, Firefox, IE8, Safari you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
What if you ignored the browsers warning a few times? :o
thats what i did :lol:

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:41 pm
by gnome
You guys should get avast. its sandbox blocks all the trojans. BTW everytime i came on early yesterday i was getting trojan warnings...You guys almost definitely have a trojan

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:47 pm
by NRHc
oh yeahhhhh :z:

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:05 pm
by tripaddict
gnome wrote:You guys should get avast. its sandbox blocks all the trojans. BTW everytime i came on early yesterday i was getting trojan warnings...You guys almost definitely have a trojan
lol

you can check if you run

netstat << this shows all the connections to your machine and what port they are using

close all your internet apps ie msn, aim, steam etc ... then start > run > cmd

then type netstat

if there are any connections you dont recognise in this list or you think shouldnt be there

press ctrl+alt+del goto the process window and look for any process's you dont recognise

(google each exe name ... and it will normally tell you what the exe does and who its by and if its safe)

now if you find a dodgy exe you first need to disable the process and delete the file

click end process to end the dodgy exe

next search your c: for the exe ... find the file and delete it.

if windows wont allow you to delete the file you need to check a few things

a. if windows says the file is locked (download a freeware file unlocker unlock the file and delete it)
b. the process is still in use ? (determine where the process is executed)

.... to determine where the process is started the most logical places to check are your registry and system services

(using regedit (start > run > regedit))
in the registry check under :
hklocalmachine/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/run
hklocalmachine/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/runonce
hklocaluser/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/run
hklocaluser/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/runonce

(or you could use mike lins startup manager http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml)

if the exe if found in the above delete the entry restart and attempt to delete the file again

if the exe is not found in the above .... it is possibly installed as a service (you'd need to check controlpanel>administrative tools > services)

i do this on a regular basis b/c i dont rely on my AV software to be correct 100% of the time ... new virus's and non public code / exploits are always a threat

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:08 pm
by legend4ry
^^^^^

QFT...

Its pretty much what a AV does, really.. Just abit more detailed.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:14 pm
by JBE
Man, I didn't think it was going to come back up. I was a bit worried there for awhile as I really enjoy this place.

Strangely, this is like the 5th site I visit frequently that has been hit by hackers in just the passed week or so. It must be some sort of conspiracy against music sites. All the big producers got together and decided they didn't want anymore "newbie" producers trying to work their way up to replace them so they hired elite hackers to take them all down.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:27 pm
by deadly_habit
like i said before the rollback if you use firefox
noscript addon, adblock plus addon

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:13 pm
by wormcode
Phigure wrote:
Depone wrote:
nowaysj wrote:You can be infected and not know it, right?
yeah thats how trojans work right? they are a back-door jobbie (no pun intended)
Im on a mac, and although the OS is really secure, im worried if it could effect me.
You're fine. You have to remember that attacks like this still require some sort of major browser vulnerability to exploit, and if it were one well known enough to be used in an attack, it's pretty much certain it's well known enough to have been patched promptly. The only people who could have something to worry about are IE5 or IE6 users, as those are ancient and definitely have some holes that haven't been fixed. If you're using even only a relatively up to date version of Opera, Chrome, Firefox, IE8, Safari you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I posted about it in the thread here concerning the warnings, but the thread was lost during the downtime.
In Chrome, after clicking the "Proceed Anyway" button on the warning page, as soon as DSF loaded a random .pdf file downloaded to my documents. I didn't open it for obvious reasons, but I locked it in an encrypted archive for later inspection. Anyone else get that? It came from some bullshit domain like yitiieiwe.com and was named mn6l193d.pdf (10KB).

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:01 pm
by wirez
I'm a mac 8)

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:03 pm
by deadly_habit
wirez wrote:I'm a mac 8)
hope you have an antivirus program and not under the typical mac user delusion of security

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:04 pm
by legend4ry
wirez wrote:I'm a mac 8)
The only reason why Macs are so secure is no-one wants to bother spending their time to write virus's for the minority, you know this.. right?

Which to me, means is that you're invaluable to the hacker world haha!

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:06 pm
by tripaddict
macs are hackable FYI

if you must know they're vulnerable to the 'usb rubber duck' attacks (the funny thing is im not joking hehe ... rubber duck attack lol)

as are pc's and many linux based systems

infact one up for windows .... in the 1st quarter of 2010 the amount of exploits for linux exceeded the total amount of exploits for windows.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:15 pm
by legend4ry
tripaddict wrote:macs are hackable FYI

if you must know they're vulnerable to the 'usb rubber duck' attacks (the funny thing is im not joking hehe ... rubber duck attack lol)

as are pc's and many linux based systems

infact one up for windows .... in the 1st quarter of 2010 the amount of exploits for linux exceeded the total amount of exploits for windows.
Exactly haha, the hacking world don't know the term "unhackable" you're not safe on your computer if you suffer from stupidity.

Re: Secure?

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:20 pm
by wirez
deadly habit wrote:
wirez wrote:I'm a mac 8)
hope you have an antivirus program and not under the typical mac user delusion of security
As much as I've heard a Windows user say that Mac's can still get viruses, I've still never seen it :P