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Re: DEATH

Post by faust.dtc » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:49 pm

Death is inevitable and without it life itself loses a lot of its meaning.

I like the quote that goes along the lines of 'Do not be afraid of dying, be afraid of not living.'

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Re: DEATH

Post by 2manynoobs » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:49 pm

yeah you're probably right :)
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Re: DEATH

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:54 pm

kI think consciousness is a property generated from a highly specific organisation of materials (similar to a computer that's just specific components in the correct arrangement). I always wonder, people who think that 'the soul' is some spooky miracle must've never wondered simple questions like "how does a calculator work? Why does a chunk of plastic and circuit shite become a calculator" People talk of reincarnation almost as if it's a transplant (which it could be, who knows) but I kinda doubt this when you consider simple energy systems and transfers etc... I guess the best study of this idea is in 'How High' where they use part of their old buddy's atoms to feed a super a cannabis plant haha

When you look at what energy (or molecules etc) are required to make a brain it doesn't seem like it could ever be limited whilst DNA is still directing life towards reproducing it... More interesting to me is how DNA could be said to be striving towards 'eternal life' by replicating it's systems into the purely mechanical world. It seems 'conscious' is a property developing in new ways etc... Who knows, in 200 years these electronic morons will probably hold the simplest of day dreams as sinister telepathic black magic

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Re: DEATH

Post by LA_Boxers » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:58 pm

Is it bad if I have Jamaroqui - Deeper Underground played at my funeral??
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Re: DEATH

Post by Kochari » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:18 pm

^ possibly the coolest thing I've read in a while

To me death = freedom. Cuz you're always gonna be bound by rules when you're alive, whether its recognised rules (ie society, guilt, whatever) or even pure instinct. So when you die theres nothing stopping you. So the key is to understand this, and embrace death when it comes, otherwise you'll spend your whole life searching for the next best thing and never find peace.

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Re: DEATH

Post by xarcane » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:24 pm

The only fear I have is that before death, I won't complete what I want to do. Death itself doesn't scare me, I could easily die for a good cause. The only reason I don't die right now is out of respect for my family, and curiosity.

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Re: DEATH

Post by faust.dtc » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:26 pm

LA_Boxers wrote:Is it bad if I have Jamaroqui - Deeper Underground played at my funeral??
:lol: All about getting cremated to 'burn baby burn, disco inferno'...

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Re: DEATH

Post by kay » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:31 pm

I wouldn't say I'm afraid of dying. But at the same time I'd prefer not to die. Especially through an accident that I should have been able to prevent.

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Re: DEATH

Post by gwa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:34 pm

would you rather live forever and have the one journey or be able to have many different journeys

i think that's what it boils down too..
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Re: DEATH

Post by kay » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:55 pm

If I could live forever, I could make that one journey into many different journeys. I've already done that, to an extent.

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Re: DEATH

Post by gwa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:06 pm

true true, maybe i'll be henchgwa in the next life
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Re: DEATH

Post by xarcane » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:18 pm

The nothingness of death is the purest form of bliss. Why would you crave more pain and more suffering?

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Re: DEATH

Post by hackman » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:21 pm

the nothingness of death makes absolutely no sense
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Re: DEATH

Post by honey-d » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:24 pm

I don't fear death. As you guys mentioned I fear my loved one's dying, but that's an attachment to them and not an attachment to life. In the end death with come for all of us though, then we're tossed back into the cycle.
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Re: DEATH

Post by xarcane » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:32 pm

hackman wrote:the nothingness of death makes absolutely no sense
It only doesn't make sense if you view it from a subjective lens, coloured by your fear. It's the fear of death that fosters all these hurtful, and destructive belief systems. The nothingness of death makes all the sense in the world to me.

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Re: DEATH

Post by hackman » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:56 pm

but i'm not afraid of death
when i die i am finally free, i can go anywhere, do anything without limitations and barriers
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Re: DEATH

Post by noam » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:59 pm

Kochari wrote:^ possibly the coolest thing I've read in a while

To me death = freedom. Cuz you're always gonna be bound by rules when you're alive, whether its recognised rules (ie society, guilt, whatever) or even pure instinct. So when you die theres nothing stopping you. So the key is to understand this, and embrace death when it comes, otherwise you'll spend your whole life searching for the next best thing and never find peace.

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Re: DEATH

Post by fractal » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:00 pm

i love my life so much right now, i'll die next century...


it's the one beef i have with some of religion/mysticism is that it tries to devalue this life we have here by saying it's nothing compared to what comes next...

even if that were the case, i think that life is amazing and should be enjoyed in its fullest. it may be the only time we are us.


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Re: DEATH

Post by hackman » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:02 pm

even if that were the case, i think that life is amazing and should be enjoyed in its fullest. it may be the only time we are us.
that's the problem, it's not possible to enjoy life to it's fullest
unless you're fucking lucky, it can always be great, but not to the full extent possible

why the fuck does the amount of money in my bank account dictate the quality of life i have, and what i can or cannot do? makes me sick
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Re: DEATH

Post by noam » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:12 pm

sorry dude, thats just the way it is... always have a choice though! if you wwant things that'll make you happy but you cant afford them, do something so you can get them, steal them, do something so you get more money to afford them if thats your gripe?

we live in money/possession based societies, the trick isn't to reject those societies but live in them well. i never have money, and always have money trouble, but i can nearly always find ways to do things that make me happy.

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