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DRTY wrote:it's called cherry popping.

Nah, that's what I did with your sister.

http://www.badscience.net/

Generally essential if you want someone who looks critically at the actual evidence whether it comes from AstraZeneca or a quack dietician...

slothrop wrote:http://www.badscience.net/

Generally essential if you want someone who looks critically at the actual evidence whether it comes from AstraZeneca or a quack dietician...

Yes. A very good book!

hackman wrote:what do you think i'm arguing? the only point that is important here is that a court paid out 1.5 million in compensation to a child who developed autism after an mmr vaccine
AND DR ANDREW WAKEFIELD WAS STRUCK OFF MEDICAL REGISTER AND HUMILIATED FOR POINTING THAT OUT

The second link you gave argued that she didn't develop autism, but that an undiagnosed cellular disorder she had reacted poorly to the vaccinations which damaged her brain, that features symptoms similar to those find in children with autistic spectrum disorder.

Social anxiety disorder, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, major unipolar depression, Tourette's, obsessive compulsive disorder, borderline personality disorder and HSP can all be strikingly similar to PDD-NOS or Asperger can all look like an autism spectrum disorder without actually being one. Humans are complicated.

Furthermore, there is a genetic link between schizophrenia and autism and I think that autism and predisposition to schizophrenia develop in the fourth month of pregnancy.

Genevieve wrote:Furthermore, there is a genetic link between schizophrenia and autism and I think that autism and predisposition to schizophrenia develop in the fourth month of pregnancy.

And autisim only starts showing signs when you learn to communicate at around one year... coincidentally the same time you have MMR. Just because they happen at the same time doesn't make them linked, otherwise my farts would be responsible for a fuck load of deaths.

cos vaccines are the only way to treat anything

Some doctors relate this recent rise in cases to the parents who have shied away from vaccinating children due to fears, albeit unfounded, that there is a connection between vaccines and autism.

i love this bit....
i mean, really???

from the second article posted on page one

"The same kind of logic comes in play here: child has a mitochondrial disorder, she has some sort of reaction after a batch of vaccines and over a few months develops autistic symptoms. Can we say that vaccines cause autism? No, at most we can say that, possibly for children which have this cellular disorder, the combination of the vaccines and the disorder, and some other factor, may result in autistic-like symptoms. Even this though, is simply a hypothesis, when all we have is a single data point."

why have they paid 1.5million dollars? fuck know's... courts make bad calls all the time

you can't get vaccinated against gullibility

hackman wrote:
cos vaccines are the only way to treat anything

The 'it sucks, but it's the best we've got' thing people usually apply to democracy can be applied very well to vaccination.

Possibly awful side effects and it can be really hard on the body, but in a lot of (not all) cases, it's better than nothing.

hurlingdervish wrote:you can't get vaccinated against gullibility

can't tell if this is at my expense or not

Genevieve wrote:

hackman wrote:
cos vaccines are the only way to treat anything

The 'it sucks, but it's the best we've got' thing people usually apply to democracy can be applied very well to vaccination.

Possibly awful side effects and it can be really hard on the body, but in a lot of (not all) cases, it's better than nothing.

i'm not advocating nothing, there's scores of other treatments

hackman wrote:

hurlingdervish wrote:you can't get vaccinated against gullibility

can't tell if this is at my expense or not

mission: succesful
i'm pretty ambivalent about my paranoia. i try to beat it down with a logic stick but still give it enough room to breathe.