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Don't start with a pad swell in the key of C. DSF classic failure

Also a lot o' people are destined to fail with originality if they spend years and bare P on buying other people's stuff... Sometimes low exposure to other music is the best path to originality

Again wi' transferable skills... In visual art I always thought style really comes from how one goes about covering/embracing faults, something to consider! Look around the world and the nature of spawns... Real easy to see in typical graffitti - those who distort the image to actually semi-conceal their name, whilst other muppets that just copy the style

StrangeFlow wrote:

paravrais wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS. lololol.

You fully don't understand our problem here. In fact the whole message throughout this thread has been make whatever you wanna make, whatever feels right to you. But you can't go deciding you've created a new genre just because you really wish you had. It's dubstep with a grunge influence, there's no such thing as grungestep. Distance didn't release all his stuff under the moniker 'metalstep' did he? appleblim isn't 'minimal technostep' joker isn't 'analogue8bitstep' I'm not 'orientalambientstep' Magnetic Man aren't 'popstep' Burial isn't '2stepstep' do you get it yet? or do I need to go on?

Your a perfect example of someone straining so hard to create something 'original' that you've blown all your creative muscles.

hahaha... sooo... because i came up with a phrase that you don't like, i'm suddenly not creative at all? what? thats ridiculous! hahahaha! look, if you hate the idea of combining 90s rock and electronic, ok fine, thats completely fine actually.... but to say that's automatically not creative in the least, well, that's just you being a rude little dumbshit. go back and take some more xanax and play WOW in your mom's basement or whatever you do when you're not freaking out. lol. just tryin to offer my two sense on this dude's problem, and i still say im right, 100% - he should do what turns him on musically, regardless of what it's called, regardless of how other people think of it...
and btw, about making genre-names or making genres, i never really took the name grungestep too seriously, the name is actually half-joking, so dont take everything so seriously.. i think its obvious im not taking things TOO seriously when i make up a joking phrase like - jazz-funk-step, or whatever it was i said, i dont intend on grungestep being one of the TOP 5 GENRES OF THE LAST 75 YEARS! so , yea... and also, your logic- that adding the word STEP to anything is stupid.. well... aren't we on a forum, right now.. called... DUB-STEP-forum? isn't that kinda... i dont know... ironic? or.. oh, no, i get it, it's OK to say DUBSTEP and 2-STEP, but joking aroudn with other phrases, well, that's THE DEVIL, right? ok, i getcha..

LOL

It's not a genre mate XD Accept it. I think it's clear which of us here is the child, I didn't call you any names or swear at you about it. I'm not freaking out here lol, just trying to educate you that it takes more than some kid making up a word to make a genre. It's not even a movement, it doesn't exist. Nobody cares what kind of music you make, go make remixes of frank sinatra or beyoncé or slayer, I really don't care. Just know that inventing a word and remixing someone else's song doesn't mean you've created a new genre. It's still just dubstep bro. Deal with it.

paravrais wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:

paravrais wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS. lololol.

You fully don't understand our problem here. In fact the whole message throughout this thread has been make whatever you wanna make, whatever feels right to you. But you can't go deciding you've created a new genre just because you really wish you had. It's dubstep with a grunge influence, there's no such thing as grungestep. Distance didn't release all his stuff under the moniker 'metalstep' did he? appleblim isn't 'minimal technostep' joker isn't 'analogue8bitstep' I'm not 'orientalambientstep' Magnetic Man aren't 'popstep' Burial isn't '2stepstep' do you get it yet? or do I need to go on?

Your a perfect example of someone straining so hard to create something 'original' that you've blown all your creative muscles.

hahaha... sooo... because i came up with a phrase that you don't like, i'm suddenly not creative at all? what? thats ridiculous! hahahaha! look, if you hate the idea of combining 90s rock and electronic, ok fine, thats completely fine actually.... but to say that's automatically not creative in the least, well, that's just you being a rude little dumbshit. go back and take some more xanax and play WOW in your mom's basement or whatever you do when you're not freaking out. lol. just tryin to offer my two sense on this dude's problem, and i still say im right, 100% - he should do what turns him on musically, regardless of what it's called, regardless of how other people think of it...
and btw, about making genre-names or making genres, i never really took the name grungestep too seriously, the name is actually half-joking, so dont take everything so seriously.. i think its obvious im not taking things TOO seriously when i make up a joking phrase like - jazz-funk-step, or whatever it was i said, i dont intend on grungestep being one of the TOP 5 GENRES OF THE LAST 75 YEARS! so , yea... and also, your logic- that adding the word STEP to anything is stupid.. well... aren't we on a forum, right now.. called... DUB-STEP-forum? isn't that kinda... i dont know... ironic? or.. oh, no, i get it, it's OK to say DUBSTEP and 2-STEP, but joking aroudn with other phrases, well, that's THE DEVIL, right? ok, i getcha..

LOL

It's not a genre mate XD Accept it. I think it's clear which of us here is the child, I didn't call you any names or swear at you about it. I'm not freaking out here lol, just trying to educate you that it takes more than some kid making up a word to make a genre. It's not even a movement, it doesn't exist. Nobody cares what kind of music you make, go make remixes of frank sinatra or beyoncé or slayer, I really don't care. Just know that inventing a word and remixing someone else's song doesn't mean you've created a new genre. It's still just dubstep bro. Deal with it.

OK dude, seriously read my post again. you didnt get the part where i said it's "ACTUALLY HALF-JOKING" do you know what that means? it means its not that serious, i said that, i said im not taking it too seriously... i mean like, you can say im the being a child, or whatever, but if you're going to blatantly take everything im saying here out of context.... you missed the ONE message that i had in those paragraphs, and basically took the exact OPPOSITE of what i actually said... mate...

on second thought, whatever.. sorry if im being a douche, i dont mean to be..

Sorry if it felt like I was attacking you dude, didn't ever mean to start a fight.

just listening to different music and make your own sounds, just keep the basic elements of dubstep and create your own style with it

producers who lead by example"

Zomby
Silkie
Mala
2562
LV etc

make some german minimal techno
stick some hard funky style drums
subbass
post in house forum
instant hot shit on the scene, auto trendsetter

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StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS.

it's just dubstep remixes of grunge, well, obviously you haven't heard much grungestep then...firstly it's not just dubstep, it's glitch, hip hop, whatever... and secondly, there are original grungestep=type tracks being made, original as in NOT JUST REMIXES... but y'all wouldnt know that cuz u're heads in the sand and you only listen to Benga.

GRUNGESTEP MASSIVE! roflcopters.



-will

Wow.

My mind is officially to blwon to retort.

Noone hates you, quit being so aggro man, just chill, none of us are serious, thats why we're dsf members... All these times you think we're being mean... gotta realize, noone on here actually cares, we sit around shoot the shit at each other on our downtime, and even when seem heated, behind the screen, we're sitting here, chillin, laughing, and everyone knows it really...

Dont get so flared up in EVERY post man. Your gonna do some serious damage to your promo.

he cant help himself... he's a DICK!!
a big phat STIFFY DICK!!!

for some reason im thing about touching myself & colouring in my nut sacks purple with vivid...
be back snish!!

!!chea

Basic A wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS.

it's just dubstep remixes of grunge, well, obviously you haven't heard much grungestep then...firstly it's not just dubstep, it's glitch, hip hop, whatever... and secondly, there are original grungestep=type tracks being made, original as in NOT JUST REMIXES... but y'all wouldnt know that cuz u're heads in the sand and you only listen to Benga.

GRUNGESTEP MASSIVE! roflcopters.



-will

Wow.

My mind is officially to blwon to retort.

Noone hates you, quit being so aggro man, just chill, none of us are serious, thats why we're dsf members... All these times you think we're being mean... gotta realize, noone on here actually cares, we sit around shoot the shit at each other on our downtime, and even when seem heated, behind the screen, we're sitting here, chillin, laughing, and everyone knows it really...

Dont get so flared up in EVERY post man. Your gonna do some serious damage to your promo.

A full injection of truth right there.

being original for the sake of being original is contrived in every sense of the word
either you got it or you don't
not constantly listening to the genre you produce for influence is a big factor imo

as far as originality goes.
i tryed making a deep dubstep track... it turned out real soulish
i tryed making deep dubstep track... it turned into breakstep
i tryed making a reggae track it turned into dubstep
i tryed making dub track... turned to brostep.

everything I make sits between 120 & 144bpm.

I don't choose the tunes.... the tunes choose me!
& they are getting better!!watch this space!!ahhaaahahahha

!!chea

Sirius wrote:as far as originality goes.
i tryed making a deep dubstep track... it turned out real soulish
i tryed making deep dubstep track... it turned into breakstep
i tryed making a reggae track it turned into dubstep
i tryed making dub track... turned to brostep.

everything I make sits between 120 & 144bpm.

I don't choose the tunes.... the tunes choose me!
& they are getting better!!watch this space!!ahhaaahahahha

!!chea

Lol aint that the truth. I rarely make the tune I intend to when I sit down

yeah hard bro!!

as part of my audio degree we have to do music theory. 1 of our assignments was to write, compose & score a ballad. So I did mine in a reggae style!!haahaha

anyways, this was my first tune that I used/played my bass, guitar, and keys!!
just had to chop up some drum loops & throw down a cowbell & this is what I came up with....
(think I may use real bass in my tracks more often!!)

what ya think??
Soundcloud

Sirius wrote:yeah hard bro!!

as part of my audio degree we have to do music theory. 1 of our assignments was to write, compose & score a ballad. So I did mine in a reggae style!!haahaha

anyways, this was my first tune that I used/played my bass, guitar, and keys!!
just had to chop up some drum loops & throw down a cowbell & this is what I came up with....
(think I may use real bass in my tracks more often!!)

what ya think??
Soundcloud

Thats probably the best thing ive heard from you.

legend4ry wrote:

Sirius wrote:yeah hard bro!!

as part of my audio degree we have to do music theory. 1 of our assignments was to write, compose & score a ballad. So I did mine in a reggae style!!haahaha

anyways, this was my first tune that I used/played my bass, guitar, and keys!!
just had to chop up some drum loops & throw down a cowbell & this is what I came up with....
(think I may use real bass in my tracks more often!!)

what ya think??
Soundcloud

Thats probably the best thing ive heard from you.

ahhaahaha.... chea brutha.

I had to keep it simple so I could write out the score.
sonically its alot easier to use real instruments.

have already started the dubstep version, will take my time on tracks for abit. polish shit off before I post up finished versions. I did up a clip of a track I'm working on today...but that was for a discussion. I feel its real nice... & my mixdowns are getting real clean, its the one under this track on my page if anyones interested!!

!!chea

paravrais wrote:

Basic A wrote:

StrangeFlow wrote:here, here! Grungestep is BOSS.

it's just dubstep remixes of grunge, well, obviously you haven't heard much grungestep then...firstly it's not just dubstep, it's glitch, hip hop, whatever... and secondly, there are original grungestep=type tracks being made, original as in NOT JUST REMIXES... but y'all wouldnt know that cuz u're heads in the sand and you only listen to Benga.

GRUNGESTEP MASSIVE! roflcopters.



-will

Wow.

My mind is officially to blwon to retort.

Noone hates you, quit being so aggro man, just chill, none of us are serious, thats why we're dsf members... All these times you think we're being mean... gotta realize, noone on here actually cares, we sit around shoot the shit at each other on our downtime, and even when seem heated, behind the screen, we're sitting here, chillin, laughing, and everyone knows it really...

Dont get so flared up in EVERY post man. Your gonna do some serious damage to your promo.

A full injection of truth right there.

yea, ok... point taken. my bad..

its all good gents, wires always get crossed on the net, more often than not when people disagree theyre both actually coming at things form different angles and dont fully appreciate exactly what the others getting at, i wouldnt sweat it.

on the subject of originality...

being original is something that, as a musician, i was never really too concerned about. I've always been too in love the with the act of making and performing music to worry about whether or not what i was doing sounded original. I think when you pursue that drive to make music of any kind originality comes about on its own.

We're all really different people here, everyones got a unique background and identity that feeds the inspiration for what we do as musicians. Being original is as simple as being true to yourself and what you love, i think. I try to shape sounds out of visuals of games i used to play and love, a good bit of which ive never known anyone else to play. A few years ago i also studied capoeira for a few years which really covered my appreciation of drumming in a spicy brazilian hot sauce :X even back when i started playing drums i forced myself to play things ranging from super intense grindcore to cheesy video game ending ballads haha! But the music i make today is a natural reaction to having mashed these different things together in my life. I just try to stay true to what i love and what i love listening to!

Also on a more concrete level lots of songs i make come out after being inspired by any number of different songs. Ill take something i like from say 3 or 4 different songs and mash those things together for a new track. Einstein once said creativity is just a matter of how well you hide your sources

a bit winded but i definitely think that everyone here on this board is unique enough in such a way that everyone can find their own original sound within themselves