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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by slothrop » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:01 pm

-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Agree.

Also, typical news coverage: 50,000 people march peacefully and the pictures and headlines are all about a dozen or so who smash stuff. Where have we seen this before? Oh yes, every time anyone protests about anything.

Also also, it's not really self interest since all these people are students already and hence won't have to pay any increased fees.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:01 pm

-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Neither is violence.

Just because they're doing "something" doesn't make them superior to people who don't. It matters what "something" you're doing.

I might just go campaign for the british heart foundation by smashing up shops that sell cigarettes.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by -dubson- » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:05 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:
-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Neither is violence.

Just because they're doing "something" doesn't make them superior to people who don't. It matters what "something" you're doing.

I might just go campaign for the british heart foundation by smashing up shops that sell cigarettes.
Violent protests (within reason obviously)>people doing nothing

If everyone did nothing then nothing would happen, at least this gives the subject publicity and lets the government know people car about the issue passionately.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:07 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:
-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Neither is violence.

Just because they're doing "something" doesn't make them superior to people who don't. It matters what "something" you're doing.

I might just go campaign for the british heart foundation by smashing up shops that sell cigarettes.
I agree,it was done in the 80's and what did it solve then and where are them protesters today, just gives the police new powers everytime this shit happens.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by deepfiend » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:20 pm

-dubson- wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:
-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Neither is violence.

Just because they're doing "something" doesn't make them superior to people who don't. It matters what "something" you're doing.

I might just go campaign for the british heart foundation by smashing up shops that sell cigarettes.
Violent protests (within reason obviously)>people doing nothing

If everyone did nothing then nothing would happen, at least this gives the subject publicity and lets the government know people car about the issue passionately.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by noam » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:30 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:KILL THE POOR
SHOOT THE MONEY!

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:33 pm

noam wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:KILL THE POOR
SHOOT THE MONEY!
There was a Jewish teacher at my school and everyone said he got paid in pound coins so he could scrape it all across the table between his arms in piles.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by noam » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:06 pm

nice to see people progressing in this world isn't it

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by stappard » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:13 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:They are studying to be in the system -q-


The point of the protest is that studying shouldn't only be seen as an investment against getting a place in the system.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by skevin » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:23 pm

I have no problem with protesting, its just when you start kicking at a door to smash it then run away/cheer because you think you have achieved when it cracks you look like a fucking idiot.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by -dubson- » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:38 pm

deepfiend wrote:
-dubson- wrote:
Motorway to Roswell wrote:
-dubson- wrote:I hate it when people rip into people for protesting, if nothing else they as said, getting off their arses and trying to make a difference. Apathy isnt going to help anyone.
Neither is violence.

Just because they're doing "something" doesn't make them superior to people who don't. It matters what "something" you're doing.

I might just go campaign for the british heart foundation by smashing up shops that sell cigarettes.
Violent protests (within reason obviously)>people doing nothing

If everyone did nothing then nothing would happen, at least this gives the subject publicity and lets the government know people car about the issue passionately.
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Jog on mate
Never said peaceful protesting doesnt work...

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by symmetricalsounds » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:44 pm

skevin wrote:I have no problem with protesting, its just when you start kicking at a door to smash it then run away/cheer because you think you have achieved when it cracks you look like a fucking idiot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asifkhan/5163734529/

they look like right pussys in that vid, as soon as it cracks they shit themselves and run. surely if they were doing things properly they should of kicked it right through and then taken over the building.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by magma » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:48 pm

Sometimes, public feeling is volatile enough to spill over into violence. Although the violence shouldn't be condoned, it also shouldn't be ignored - people are clearly fucking angry.

A few smashed windows and a free day off for the people in the office building isn't too bad really and it makes a hell of a point. Lobbing a fire extinguisher off the roof of a 387ft building really is NOT acceptable... could've been very nasty.
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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by Lurka » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:54 pm

just saw this on the idiot box! someone throwing a fire extinguisher off the roof, not cool!

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by DRTY » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:00 pm

trigga!!! wrote:just saw this on the idiot box! someone throwing a fire extinguisher off the roof, not cool!
exactly, shit like that is not fucking cool

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by alphacat » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:02 pm

Live Report wrote:Our reporter, Mike Northcott, believes that the protestors outside the building could be there for a while: “A police officer told me that the remaining protestors would not be released until they have all been photographed. There are what looks like about 200-300 people still penned in.”
Good thing they're dealing with the Tit-Hats and not, say, Russian polic-i-tary officers...

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by noam » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:05 pm

what this man said
one million people plus marched against the iraq war to no effect. 1,000,000 people feeling strongly enough about something to take to the streets - effect: zero. What were 52,000 kids gonna do? 'AWWW, SWEET!' the Tories'd say looking on from their tower while calculatedly demolishing the fabric of a society that 10's of millions have shed blood to create - and all in the hope we'll all become a mixture of Richard Branson and Mother Teresa to minimise the inevitable debilitating effects to our social cohesion, togetherness, well-being, happiness etc. etc. Protesters on the roof - history'll tell you the great Gandhi started with vandalism of destruction of public property in SA, then flouting the law on the salt levy in India. Breaking glass would not be seen as a tragic display of the destruction of his epic non-violent movement. Even the deified Mandela was part of a rebel movement responsible or outrageous violence. Bold statements are always condescended as petit, mindless violence by the authorities for the purpose of alienating 'them', the protesters from the rest of the disenfranchised in society - it quells further unrest - a tactic of power retention. Please please support these people - students, union members, benefits claimants, it matters not who they are, people don't choose to kick in glass of the seat of power in front of banks of cameras as a laugh - that is a daily mail reader's response, grow up and stand up for what your grandparents fought for and the tories are now taking away from them in their final years. I'll chip in £10 for the glass to be repaired after the tories have backed down, anyone else in?

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by -dubson- » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:07 pm

magma wrote:Sometimes, public feeling is volatile enough to spill over into violence. Although the violence shouldn't be condoned, it also shouldn't be ignored - people are clearly fucking angry.

A few smashed windows and a free day off for the people in the office building isn't too bad really and it makes a hell of a point. Lobbing a fire extinguisher off the roof of a 387ft building really is NOT acceptable... could've been very nasty.
This.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by butt jolokia » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:14 pm

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He could afford a better sign if he didn't spend his money on expensive Adidas bags.

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Re: Millbank student demo just got real

Post by skevin » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:19 pm

magma wrote:Sometimes, public feeling is volatile enough to spill over into violence. Although the violence shouldn't be condoned, it also shouldn't be ignored - people are clearly fucking angry.
Dont get me wrong, I agree with you 100%, but that video just made them look like a bunch of wannabe thugs.


Its a bit difficult to get a proper idea of how people are feeling though when it doesn't affect you :|
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