Pedro Sánchez wrote:135ish and 909/808 cowbells and toms
is Juke going to be the new Dubstep?
Juke is not dubstep, and has nothing to do with it. its a form of house. and its done usually at 160.
I can't see in my original quote where I state, Juke having anything in common musically with Dubstep.
What I meant as a 'joke' (even though I know humour is hard to grasp for most members of this forum) was, is Juke going to be the new hype music, once regional, that everyone jumps on because it's trendy but ends up being for the larger percentage an embarrassing cliché?
Safe
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:27 pm
by upstateface
Sharmaji wrote:i've got a dj assault mixtape from 2000 (DJ ASSAULT OFF THE MOTHERFUCKIN CHAIN FOR THE Y2K) which I believe is something like 90 tracks in 60 minutes. Even the classic "Ass & Titties" only runs for 34 seconds (jacked up to like 182 bpm)... this shit is real!
And "Ride" is some original 'drumstep'
Oh lawd, this is amazing
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:55 pm
by wheez-ie
frank grimes jr. wrote:Juke sucks.
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:18 am
by street_astrologist
The main juke discussion thread you're looking for is this way:
(Production-wise, I love what this music is doing with toms, really inspirational.
I don't think the full-on juke sound is accessible enough for the mainstream, but for sure, elements of it are going to find their way out to pop now that the hype machine is rumbling...)
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:31 pm
by mks
Just read a through that thread a bit, some cool stuff but you also already have people saying "juke has the snares on the 2 and 4, while footwork has snares on the three" shiieeeeeet....
I found this quote from the discogs forum to be amusing:
"knob wrote:
maybe somebody in the U.K will put a new name to it like ghettostep or something and they will be a pioneer of a brand new sound:)"
no diss, but I really wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
At the very least, I think it could be a good thing. It's giving some inner city kids from the midwest to get their sound out there. As far as the dubstep heads, it's getting a much needed dose of new influences. My working hypothesis right now is that dubstep kids have gotten over this "unwritten rule" that dubstep has to be a kick on the one and a snare on the three @ 140 BPM with a halftime feel. Perhaps it's time for some new rhythmics.
EZ
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:35 pm
by Ldizzy
cant believe that shit is getting some hype so long after its birth
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:41 pm
by qwaycee_
i wonder what the average chicago head who grew up with this shit thinks...we've seen a few opinions in this thread from some folk who were actual fans before the recent hype...but i wonder what heads in chicago are thinking.
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:44 pm
by legend4ry
mks wrote: My working hypothesis right now is that dubstep kids have gotten over this "unwritten rule" that dubstep has to be a kick on the one and a snare on the three @ 140 BPM with a halftime feel. Perhaps it's time for some new rhythmics.
EZ
The rule what was never set in the first place, just the most popular tunes were halfstep hahah!
Its all about moving that snare around, making big bass music at 140bpm, just like dubstep should be !
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:47 pm
by mks
legend4ry wrote:
mks wrote: My working hypothesis right now is that dubstep kids have gotten over this "unwritten rule" that dubstep has to be a kick on the one and a snare on the three @ 140 BPM with a halftime feel. Perhaps it's time for some new rhythmics.
EZ
The rule what was never set in the first place, just the most popular tunes were halfstep hahah!
Its all about moving that snare around, making big bass music at 140bpm, just like dubstep should be !
No doubt! I never bought into that rule anyways but I've heard it reiterated here sooo many times...
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:18 am
by glottis5
Ldizzy wrote:cant believe that shit is getting some hype so long after its birth
I think it's pretty neat that it was overlooked by the internet and music journalists for so long... sometimes i think that people forget that there's a lot of shit out there that exists outside the scope of the internet and mainstream media
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:18 am
by qwaycee_
mks wrote:
legend4ry wrote:
mks wrote: My working hypothesis right now is that dubstep kids have gotten over this "unwritten rule" that dubstep has to be a kick on the one and a snare on the three @ 140 BPM with a halftime feel. Perhaps it's time for some new rhythmics.
EZ
The rule what was never set in the first place, just the most popular tunes were halfstep hahah!
Its all about moving that snare around, making big bass music at 140bpm, just like dubstep should be !
No doubt! I never bought into that rule anyways but I've heard it reiterated here sooo many times...
+1
foolish rule.
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:05 am
by abZ
What is ironic from reading the last few posts is Richie August from Chicago put out the Ghettostep EP on my label. Hulk has been doing the brostep/juke thing for a while. I am not even sure if the average Chicago juker even knows people listen to it outside of the mid-west. Personally I thought the genre had died off.
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:16 am
by Sharmaji
Can't wait to see what happens when dubstep discovers go-go!
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:18 am
by collective
abZ wrote:What is ironic from reading the last few posts is Richie August from Chicago put out the Ghettostep EP on my label. Hulk has been doing the brostep/juke thing for a while. I am not even sure if the average Chicago juker even knows people listen to it outside of the mid-west. Personally I thought the genre had died off.
well juke/ghettotech is currently being raped to death by over privileged suburban kids that can't dj the music how it should be and only know of the genre because of footcrab and are only making it because its "hip", which leaves the end product soulless and boring.
...just chalk it down as another thing the suburbanites got their greasy hipster mitts on and destroyed...
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:19 am
by deadly_habit
wait till those hip cats find the jitterbug
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:16 am
by Ldizzy
glottis5 wrote:
Ldizzy wrote:cant believe that shit is getting some hype so long after its birth
I think it's pretty neat that it was overlooked by the internet and music journalists for so long... sometimes i think that people forget that there's a lot of shit out there that exists outside the scope of the internet and mainstream media
word.
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:17 am
by Ldizzy
deadly habit wrote:wait till those hip cats find the jitterbug
ahahahahahahah... then ill start the official burn a vneck and knitted beret day :'(
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:39 am
by jsills
Sharmaji wrote:Can't wait to see what happens when dubstep discovers go-go!
thats what dubstep needs....MORE COWBELL!!
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:49 am
by cloak and dagger
Sharmaji wrote:Can't wait to see what happens when dubstep discovers go-go!
Shit I came in here to post this exact same thing!
I do have to admit that it's kind of weird that it's just NOW getting picked up on; I didn't even realize I've been listening to this stuff for a decade now!
Re: Juke / Footwork
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:37 am
by abZ
cloak and dagger wrote:
Sharmaji wrote:Can't wait to see what happens when dubstep discovers go-go!
Shit I came in here to post this exact same thing!
I do have to admit that it's kind of weird that it's just NOW getting picked up on; I didn't even realize I've been listening to this stuff for a decade now!
Well it has influenced my music for a long time even if it isn't very noticeable. I am sure I am not the only one. I used to say brostep was the next ghettotech. To me it had that vibe but without so much of the riddem. I don't care about juke coming back but the tribal type beats I am into. More of this.