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gravious wrote:

rekorder wrote:

jahtao wrote: i'm of the opinion that Reason is much like one big sample cd.

SECONDED!

Only if your inexperienced/shit at using it, and use the presets (which are pretty poor for the most part).

Admitedly, it does constrain you a little if its your only sequencer, but its easy to use and rewire it.

dont get me wrong, reason can be used just as creatively as any other program but its not just presets. the drum machine is full of pre-rescorded hits, which altho they can b manipulated is remarkably similar to using a sample cd or other sample resource.

lets be honest, how many producers out there can honestly say that they record all drum/instrument samples, or create them from scratch on a synth?

as for whether it's good for the scene, i dont think so. for me dubstep is (or fuckin should b) a umbrella term for the scene and not a predetermined sound. hip-hop has flourished by doing this, it refers to every thing from gangsta/commercial to the ultra-creative sounds of producers and emcees like daedelus, fourtet, mf doom, mike ladd, busdriver etc.

£10 Bag wrote:If you're too lazy to track down your own sounds, you don't deserve to be making tunes IMO.

exactly!

ozols man wrote:

gravious wrote:By putting a bunch of sounds on a cd and saying "this is Dubstep", you are pushing aspiring producers in a certain direction, which I think is a shame.

the way i see it, if this is the mentality of upcoming producers, i dont think theyre gonna get very far..

agree
i have plenty of "drum n bass" sample cds guess what never used em at face value or loops
putting out tools isnt the problem people's mentalities is

ruckus.dk wrote:

£10 Bag wrote:If you're too lazy to track down your own sounds, you don't deserve to be making tunes IMO.

exactly!

if you you an 808 bass you need to stfu

Reason can be used to make creative music just like any other program. Its all about the user not the program.

Reason has synths & samplers just like everything else but id say that Absynth is a better synth than say the subtractor but thats not to say that The Subtractor is shit. I rarley ever use a pre- made patch for say the subtractor, but when I do by the time ive fucked around with the LFO's & filters ect its nothing like what i begun with.

All dance music was built on samples, Dubstep is no exception. The variable is if they are your own samples or not. If they are not your own samples a good producer will make them their own by manipulating them.

westernsynthetics wrote:All dance music was built on samples

WHAAAAAAAAAT?

let me cofirm, I should have said modern dance music uses samples in some form or another. Every producer is using sampled audio to make their choons wether that be their own samples or somebody elses.

Every time you cut up audio and put it into a sampler/drum machine/rex player or in a sequence you are using a sample.

It would be safe to say that most producers would do this in one form or another everytime they make a song. Unless they are using live bass guitar, drums and keys to make their music.

westernsynthetics wrote:let me cofirm, I should have said modern dance music uses samples in some form or another.

Agreed then. My whaaaat was because there was a lot of dance music before (affordable) samplers.

westernsynthetics wrote:Unless they are using live bass guitar, drums and keys to make their music.

Or using synthesis, which is not sampling, even though there is a lot based on sampled waveforms.