Can anyone still get away with playing deep tunes in a club?

[shankstep]

Its about being a leader. Theres enough sheep out there already.

Play what you like and enjoy it.

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Weird that you would even have to ask that... Is the UK like that now?

Maybe not, I just wondered.

The way I see it, I'd have to be playing on a nice system to really get the sub going on my tracks.

I agree with most of the comments above especially random trio's.

I love something about deep music and really feel a connection with it, I just hope that my love for this type of music spills over into the crowd.

Cheers for the advice.

[rrr]

Hi.

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Send a link to a mixcloud or soundcloud and we'll give it a listen with view to a gig in the future. My email is djrichreason@gmail.com and our website is

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[murky21]

On one hand I think it is easy for people like Cyrus or Jack Sparrow to say as they make amazing deep music and will draw the right crowds and have established followings. If you are a new dj trying to break through and you end up djing at a night full of students and might run a risk of clearing floors...

however, as has been said, whats the point if you aren't playing good tunes that mean something to you personally...i disagree with whoever said it doesnt matter how tight the mixing is if it is too deep for the crowd - its all about the mixing if you aint an established producer. No matter how 'deep' the tunes are, if you are banging in mixes quickly, tight and tunes that work well together it sounds so sick even to the most uncultured ear who might not even realise its a mix.

all the best Dj's would tell you its also about feeling the crowd too - even Yunx said in his Q&A that he has some jump-up if he thinks the crowd requires it, but the tunes hes talking about will still be good quality weight, i think theres plenty of deeper hype tunes with loads of energy...tunes like from producers mentioned Jack Sparrow/ Ruckspin - Dread...Cyrus/ N-Type - Concious...Youngsta - Momentum im pretty sure would kill it in any situation..

this is bang on -

I like deep and jump up dubstep and only play what I truly love! In a club environment I'm constantly reading the crowd and throughout my set I'm watching to get an understanding of what the particular crowd is feeling. If they are not feeling the deeper sound then I will play more jump up and vice-versa

best of luck mate and hope you end up pushing that good quality weight

[maxr]

mate i'm a resident at a party i do myself, and the only times i really get positive comments afterwards was when i wasn't dj'ing in my own style but going more for the bangers to make up for a main act not turning up. for the rest of it there's always people hating (on, say, twitter, lol) that it's 'too much rnb' 'too much house' or whatever. but the joy of playing a nice set of music you really like isn't matched by a few compliments of folks who liked your tearout set. so just play what you like, but try to keep a certain level of energy in your set, building op tension etc. as there's said before in this thread there are lots of deep tunes that are still gonna bang on the dancefloor because of the ammount of sub it has.

[dopocc]

Played most of these tunes http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=176772 on a F1 system in athens as an opening dj to a dub/roots event and everybody was skanking, smokin (you still can in athenz ) and drinking! Pure vibez

[thegooddrsdoctor]

Played most of these tunes http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=176772 on a F1 system in athens as an opening dj to a dub/roots event and everybody was skanking, smokin (you still can in athenz ) and drinking! Pure vibez

athens, greece or athens, georgia (united states)?

[dopocc]

Played most of these tunes http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=176772 on a F1 system in athens as an opening dj to a dub/roots event and everybody was skanking, smokin (you still can in athenz ) and drinking! Pure vibez

athens, greece or athens, georgia (united states)?

athens greece

[Foul Matta]

Certain tunes still smash it and always will do.
People always seem happy to hear anti war dub/earth a run red/skeng/shattered/I dont give a dub
If you don't beleive me, go to stink like sock & watch T_! play
He smashes it as good as any other man with old tunes and new

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[Caski]

if people dont like wot ur playing then they shouldnt have come to see u play.

play wot u want not wot u reckon ppl may or may not like, if ur gona do that ur gona try n please every1 which is impossible, there will always be someone goin...na mate not feelin this one, or na not my style etc

imo if u play sumin that 90% of the crowd aint got a clue about but then uve got the few heads that KNOW about that tune then its well worth havin played it naw mean

[bassrael]

Its about being a leader. Theres enough sheep out there already.

Play what you like and enjoy it.

cyrus, you´re a wise man

[Ennayess]

play what you like and not what you think people will like. Even if the room empties, you've just got to listen to your favorite tunes really fucking loud in a club

i clear the dance floor on a regular basis and i will keep doing it for that reason. also a good sound system helps people understand deep tunes a bit better so just keep pushing them.

[BLACKSMOKEMONSTER]

play what you like and not what you think people will like. Even if the room empties, you've just got to listen to your favorite tunes really fucking loud in a club

YES!

[ruckspin]

my 2p:

don't treat your audience like closed-minded idiots. hopefully they will respect you for it.

in my experience a set full of mid-range bangers is as boring as a set full of plinky-plonk woodblocks or a set full of dull looping techno or a set full of ambient garagey numbers.

make your set musically interesting and you should win the crowd (at least you would if this was a fair world)...

[wolf89]

At Subheavy a night that I play at I've seen the dance floor end up pretty empty when a guy who played the most generic mid range crap and pop music remixes got to play there.

Personally I like to play the darker and more agtessive side of deep stuff and the deeper more thoughtful side of the more agressive or dancefloor stuff. Plus some grime. Do love playing grime.

I think really what a crowd wants is quality. Disposable pop remixes and formula wobble crap will only please the drunk ass studenty idiot who would normally go to any old club regardless of the music as long as there was cheap drinks and a chance to either pull or sing along to journey. It's not something to try sustain as it will die fast, nor is it anything that will help the music scene as it's so shallow and weak in people's dedication to it.

However on the other side of the coin is people who are too consumed in thinking what they are playing is deep. Playing an hour of music that sounds like it's off a bank advert doesn't mean you're playing deep music. It's still possible to play a set of dry sounding emotionless crap with nothing to draw anyone in while you're thinking what you're playing is somehow deep because it doesn't have wobbles in.

[murky21]

^^^ plymouth heads have a suprisingly good taste in music in general!!
p.s. make sure you and all ur mates go buy your shit in Bigga Records man, dont let that shop die!!

[wolf89]

^^^ plymouth heads have a suprisingly good taste in music in general!!
p.s. make sure you and all ur mates go buy your shit in Bigga Records man, dont let that shop die!!

I always buy from Bigga.

Simon sends me all the distributers lists so I can see all the records that might interest me and get them ordered. Also he even phones or texts me about stuff I would want arriving in the store

Makes a real effort to cater to peoples taste and not only order what is most likely to be popular.

[murky21]

I always buy from Bigga.

Simon sends me all the distributers lists so I can see all the records that might interest me and get them ordered. Also he even phones or texts me about stuff I would want arriving in the store

Makes a real effort to cater to peoples taste and not only order what is most likely to be popular.

no doubt, Si's the one! proper loves his tunes, mans a gent. Never got on with Mitch as well, but then he wasnt really on a dnb/ dubstep/ hiphop flex. Been to some epic Bigga records parties at Tramps in bretonside, proper pissed up mixing.. Last time I was down popped in to get a few bits but looked like a ghost town in there

[shankstep]

my 2p:

don't treat your audience like closed-minded idiots. hopefully they will respect you for it.

in my experience a set full of mid-range bangers is as boring as a set full of plinky-plonk woodblocks or a set full of dull looping techno or a set full of ambient garagey numbers.

make your set musically interesting and you should win the crowd (at least you would if this was a fair world)...

Completely agree with you Ruckspin. Cheers.

[Incognitorecords]

Depends on your type of crowd. If it's a fully dubstep night then I'd say go for it because people are obviously there to hear Dubstep.

Also I'd say it depends on the actual sound system of the club. I wouldn't go playing any of the extremely deep stuff as people may not be able to appreciate it properly.

[apathesis]

it is 100% about the mixing, too many so called "deep" dj's play clangy key-clashing mixes of all their favourite tunes and it sounds lame.

however, if there is groove and flow and each tune works with the next and you switch it up a lot then of course it works.

i think it's because for me, a lot of so called 'deep' stuff is still dancefloor, dancefloor music is about the beat, not about how intense the robot bass // wobble // whatever-it-is-now is.

but yeah, quick switches and well-planned mixes enable you to drop almost anything imo.