Why do deep heads seem to hate on the hyped stuff so much?!

[fractal]

I'm just gonna reuse the post I put in these threads each time they appear, bout twice a week by my calculations. Hope u don't mind:

It's ok that we all don't enjoy the same type of music. These days the "why u hatin" threads are just as numerous as just as annoying as the "hate threads" themselves. We need to stop bitching in this forum so badly, it's getting way too emo in here

[darkside]

Nothing against the DECENT hype stuff - i include it in my sets.

BUT Half the stuff ive heard recently ISNT dubstep. It's sound at 140 bpm which gets classed as dubstep.

I think its that reason why they arent popular with 'the originators'.

[Widowmaker]

agreed, also darkside mate do you use AIM?

[nylle]

i think someone may have said something like this before but anyway:


the in your face brostep tunes are great for big clubs and parties. people like to get fucked up and rage to it all night. only thing is, these tunes leave little room to think.

deep tracks offer space and soundscapes. i dont think deep tracks will ever be more popular than hyped up brostep tracks because most people these days have REEEEEALLLY SHORT attention spans. a minute or so of ambient noises before the bass/beat drops frustrates the average person because they want to hear the loud stuff right away.

so i think that might be why 'deep heads' "hate" on it. pretty sure it's just as much of a complaint on society as it is a complaint on the actual tunes

everyone's too busy. no one's got time to sit back and close their eyes and think nowadays~

[darkside]

everyone's too busy. no one's got time to sit back and close their eyes and think nowadays~

I disagree - come to DMZ on 5th March.

"Meditate on bass weight, no ear ache by no weight"

[darkside]

agreed, also darkside mate do you use AIM?

Yup, "darksideriddem"

[jack sparrow1]

Nothing against the DECENT hype stuff - i include it in my sets.

BUT Half the stuff ive heard recently ISNT dubstep. It's sound at 140 bpm which gets classed as dubstep.

I think its that reason why they arent popular with 'the originators'.

agreed

also, i think what is now considered as 'dubstep' to the mainstream or first time listeners is so different from the true underground sound that
the real dubby dubstep can breath again and people are picking up on it..... which spurs them onto a vast catalogue of great timeless tunes.

i do love a bit of 'aggs' but as darkside said production wise it has to be on a level when dealing with a desired outcome of mass appeal.

music is subjective at the end of the day and you can only like what you connect with, dont be force fed music.

my 2 pence worth anyway

keep doing what you do whatever you make

[nylle]

everyone's too busy. no one's got time to sit back and close their eyes and think nowadays~

I disagree - come to DMZ on 5th March.

"Meditate on bass weight, no ear ache by no weight"

just saw the thread for that

if i can save for a plane ticket ill try

[thegooddrsdoctor]

I dont think I have heard a brostep tune I like since cockney thug (edit: does eastern jam count? dunno I rated that still). My hangup that stops me getting into this sound, is there's nothing but face value in a lot of these tunes. Kryptic Minds, Breakage and others manage to get hype, aggression and subtleness, the tunes are moody, not just angry. There's story there, emotion I can relate to. I haven't been able to get angry enough to get into the kind of stuff funtcase and skrillex are making since I was 16. And a lot of the time, the tunes sound like cats fighting etc. I certainly don't 'hate' on. I'll give anything ago.

that's the best post i've read in this thread. look at artists like coki & breakage and you get heavy tunes with that original dubstep emotion & flavor.
also, cockney thug is the last brostep track i've heard that i've really dug as well.

[thegooddrsdoctor]

everyone's too busy. no one's got time to sit back and close their eyes and think nowadays~

I disagree - come to DMZ on 5th March.

"Meditate on bass weight, no ear ache by no weight"

that's deep

[skitz_0]

Also, producers like Lost and others on HENCH put out absolute bangers that everyone enjoys. It's all about doing whatever you're doing, but doing it well.

[pete_bubonic]

I guess its chalk n cheese for some, I'm personally enjoy going a bit mad! Then again thats whats always got me with tunes, that shock factor - either deep or hard as funk as long as it makes me go wow its a tune! I have to say I'm surprised not one tune has touched you in all this time?! I don't DJ deep stuff but could real off a number of tracks that I'm currently feeling!

Yeah I do struggle to think of tunes! I told a lie, I fucking love Spongebob as well.

I honestly don't consider myself a 'deep' head (well maybe a little emo) (no homo), I like some of the rowdiest Grime and plenty of big tunes. Just not this current trend of ultra teeth growly moshing styles and sounds, that's kinda why I stopped listening to a lot DnB and started listening to Dubstep in the first place.

[mikey_g]

Personally I've heard a lot of terrible Mala wannabes that have no idea about production other than opening up reason, laying a kick n snare down n a sub n some gay flute! Swings both ways!

made me laugh loads.

i want more tunes with gay flutes

[Widowmaker]

agreed, also darkside mate do you use AIM?

Yup, "darksideriddem"

thanks buddy will swing some bits your way soon

[Liam92]

Good hype track:

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Bad hype track:

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[kwun-tings]

i think that the tear out stuff is generally very unpleasant to listen to, not just in a production quality kind of way but in a physical way. it actually HURTS my eardrums listening to this music.

someone mentioned on the first page, deep heads like the deeper sounds because they thats how it originally sounded and there is a lot of emotion attached to that. i cant agree with this more, i remember my first ever dubstep rave, it was a DMZ @ Mass back in 2006 i think... i have never experienced bass like that!!

now i really dislike how the scene is moving and that people relatively new to the scene just assume dubstep is meant to be chainsaw noises.

there are some tear out producers out there that i do like though, probably because their production is of a good quality.

its quite hard to find tunes that are the 'middle' ground, but there are definitely some out there. i cant get enough of Pinch -swish atm!!

[deadly_habit]

probably because that side has wayyyy too many followers production wise and not enough innovators
the endless onslaught of "how do i make a bass like flavor of the month producer threads on the production board can attest to that"
these guys want to be generic carbon copies of the guys who actually innovate and forged out their own distinct style and sound
that's what tends to rub me the wrong way

[pete_bubonic]

Personally I've heard a lot of terrible Mala wannabes that have no idea about production other than opening up reason, laying a kick n snare down n a sub n some gay flute! Swings both ways!

made me laugh loads.

i want more tunes with gay flutes

LOL, I didn't clock that until you quoted it.

[Sharmaji]

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that one has one of those great "oh please, god, don't let this become yet another chainsaw massacre drop" buildups that, as always, fails to deliver me my wishes.

[Sharmaji]

on the other hand, f'ing fantastic big-room tearout biz:



easily one of my fave tunes of 2009.