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Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:49 am
by deadly_habit
remember when the jump up heads weren't so obnoxious and tossing new genre names on everything... yeah then they found dubstep
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:48 am
by Dreadfunk
paravrais wrote:
The way I see it, in EDM/dance music, unlike other forms of music, genre is dictated by the actual melodies etc last of all. The first thing that dictates genre is tempo, the second is the drum programming and only then, if your still not sure do you look to the musical elements (but 99x out of 100 the tempo and drums will already tell you). I find the best thing with sub genres is to just ignore them. Any DnB whether halftime or not is just DnB to me, that happens to be halftime. The reason subgenres to me seem like bollocks is because they don't seem to have any defining features or boundaries, which by definition is what you need to make the distinction that something is a genre.
Yeah and that's just the problem.
If you take a Dubstep track and speed it up 30 or 40 BPM it's still dubstep in my book. It doesn't make it Half Time Drum and Bass. I think genres should have more to do with the "sound" than anything else, even if that means the robot wobblers are in a different genre than deep dubstep. Loads of non-DJ people hear "drumstep" and assume it's dubstep because it SOUNDS like the dubstep they know. And I have to agree with them. A perfect example would be Datsik's Southpaw. It's Dubstep. It's not Drum and Bass, even though it's at the same tempo. Maybe it's hip hop? But then doesn't that make Drum and Bass double time hip hop?
.. oh wait.
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:43 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
Dreadfunk wrote: doesn't that make Drum and Bass double time hip hop?
.. oh wait.
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:45 pm
by deadly_habit
doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:49 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
deadly habit wrote:doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
+Rock n roll, Disco, RnB...
honestly i think hip-hop is the first breaks genre ever created.
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:22 pm
by deadly_habit
-[2]DAY_- wrote:deadly habit wrote:doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
+Rock n roll, Disco, RnB...
honestly i think hip-hop is the first breaks genre ever created.
disco vs hip hop for breaks? far as old school
gaz sing sing break pretty much is essential disco usage of breaks
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:53 pm
by Fbac
but without subgenres how will sonic acadamy make there money! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Producer/Al ... r+Courses/
How to make peak-time-trance , how to make Glitch-step house for about 30 quid each.... ...
....peak-time-trance? i must have missed that one... ... note to self make happy-time-step
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:10 pm
by abZ
I am going to start having "lessons" every other type musician does it why not me. I'll sit there and make tunes for them even at whatever per hour. Hope the parents don't mind me smokin weed heheh.
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:18 pm
by sigbowls
£29.99 i dont know haw much that is but sounds good
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:50 pm
by Fbac
If i said 29.99 British pounds sterling = 47.96 US dollars
(Exchange rate: 1.599100)
would it still sound good? (or did i miss the sarcasm ><)
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:05 pm
by serox
deadly habit wrote:doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
Didn't Hip Hop come before Techno? Techno was the name given to the new electronic music they were making by Juan but it was basically 'music made with new technology'
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:06 pm
by serox
deadly habit wrote:remember when the jump up heads weren't so obnoxious and tossing new genre names on everything... yeah then they found dubstep
true
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:09 pm
by serox
-[2]DAY_- wrote:deadly habit wrote:doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
+Rock n roll, Disco, RnB...
honestly i think hip-hop is the first breaks genre ever created.
Yeh Kool in the 70s was the first guy to play a drum break on 'loop' by jungling two copies of a Jazz/Disco/Funk records, apparently.
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:37 pm
by cloak and dagger
serox wrote:deadly habit wrote:doesn't that make hip hop chopped up funk and techno?
Didn't Hip Hop come before Techno?
yup
Re: 140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:51 pm
by Rezzidex
aaah.dubstep is a dub infulenced music and focuses on perccusion and sub bass freqs,that rules have been broken a long time ago,there is no drumstep dubstep or dnb,,its all basicly the same,so who gives a fuck do what you wish and call it what you wish,im not hating but half of uk dubstep scene is not really dubstep,but who gives a fuck,its all music right.-_-