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yes legendary that track is sick!!!, get a bashment vocal over that PRONTO

serious bro, that;s sick

deamonds wrote: So what if grime heads came and jumped on funky, i couldnt think of better people to fucking make it, it needs that raw energy that grime had, that lo-fi production value, otherwise it would just be boring fucking house.

Can't agree with this statement any more... I find it hard to enjoy over produced music thats why I never got into house or dnb that much.. Funky to me is the evolution from the other side of UKG (opposite of what dubstep spawned from) its the kinda cheesy, raw produced-feel good music. Obviously the sounds more diverse than that and I do absolutely adore some of the tribal influenced dark ukfunky but I think when people "discover" ukfunky it brings them back UKG nostalgia and whats so bad about that? Its better than ponsy Future Garage. (which is probably made by people who pronounce it ga-rarrrge and live in Surrey.)



And cheers deams !

future garage is the most stupidest thing int he fucking world, and 'post' dubstep.

it's just garage, and house??? i mean post dubstep? really??? (by the way i'm not calling the genres shit, although f/garage is so boring, not half as good as just old garage, it's more attacking the people who use those terms)

minimal techno or mnml was spawned from a few similar sounding records, I don't hear you attacking that? It's one of the most BORING genres EVER!? Oh just because the producers are all audofiles and have their tracks mixed down clean as, doesnt make it any more listenable. Obviously tunes have to be of a certain listening quality. You sound like you are attacking the producers for not knowing the software, which proves how jaded and bitter you really are, (and ignorant for that matter). Your posting on Dubstep forum, Dubstep was made by kids of about 15/16 pissing around on fruity loops not knowing what they were doing, those kids are now skream and benga.

So what if grime heads came and jumped on funky, i couldnt think of better people to fucking make it, it needs that raw energy that grime had, that lo-fi production value, otherwise it would just be boring fucking house.

Not at all attacking the producers for not knowing software, I was simply noting that a lot of people's track's that I heard when Uk Funky got really popular were clearly tracks they made in like an hour half heartedly, and they would put them up on facebook/ whatever and brand them as 'made this ting real quick - brand new funky house' or some bullshit like that. I don't know many people that could make a solid finished and mixed track in an hour.

Like I said, you only have to look at the majority of the tracks that got big to see just how seriously people took themselves (quite seriously, ironically) - Are U Gonna Bang Doe, Migraine Skank, Heads Shoulders Knees And Toes etc- this is what got popular, and they were shocking tracks. People like Geeneus were good though. They are good, that's why a track he has produced has actually got into the charts (Lights On - Katy B). Obviously there were the minority that made good tracks too, with that raw, dirty feel of grime and a lot of garage, but like I said, the minority. That's why all the shit stuff got so popular imo, because there was such a lot of it and not enough great stuff.

and how is it not associated with house? wtf?

I never said it wasn't, I said it was. People would be calling it Funky House. Or people would be calling soulful us house 'uk funky'. I was actually playing on a radio station and had some muppet phone in saying 'oi fam are you gonna play some funky house', I was like mate, the track I'm playing right now is called Make Up Your Mind by Hott 22, and its one of the best most popular 'funky house' tracks in the last 10 years I'd say. He replied 'nah dis ain't funky play some donae'o or something like that' at which point I told him he didn't know what he was talking about and put the phone down. When you have idiots phoning in telling you you're not playing something, it's annoying.

Your tunes are alright, but what an incredibly pretentious and ignorant post.

Maybe pretentious and ignorant, then again maybe just fed up of a genre of music that you love and have been listening to for years being bastardised by people who don't listen to any other genre of music e.g. grime, so they hear something 'new' and think its brand spanking new and never been done before. Single minded people, much like, I might add, half the UK Garage scene, which I am a part of so have no problem with saying. Pretentious and ignorant are 2 things I am not, anyone who knows me will know that.

As for bandwagon jumpers jumping from Grime to UK Funky, I would say the same for a lot of 'Garage' producers jumping on Bassline when it got big. They just jumped on the next big thing, and that didn't last very long. Their heart couldn't have been in Garage much for them to instantly jump on some (largely dire) sub genre of it as soon as it got popular.

Now I just wish tracks like that Bucie track had maybe got popular through the 'uk funky' scene, but unfortunately that is the US House sound that would rarely get popular outside of an underground house scene, not something as soulful as that with the current state of the music industry.

why the fuck does everyone keep mentioning crazy cousins too, just proves you don't know nothing about funky in 2011 they havent made anything in fucking ages

Erm, isn't that the point? - 'Funky' can't have been doing that much in '2011' because it hasn't got much more popular than when it first got a crowd. I thought it had died a death months ago, it all got too much hype around it and people killed it. I mentioned Crazy Cousins because they were probably one of the main pioneers at the start of UK Funky back in 2008-2009. So far, dubstep & more ambient stuff has been doing it in 2011, in my eyes anyway. And I don't really have time to, nor do i wish to follow UK Funky. I'll stick with the trying to get releases etc in the House scene thanks.

^ fun-to-read opinion mate!

i def c ur point...

honestly i really thought ukfunky had been the big thing in the uk for the past few years...

am i wrong?

Its certainly not doing it much at the moment, if it is then I'm either deaf or blind because haven't seen any poster's for big 'Funky' nights or heard any really new popular tracks. Things like Dubstep, and more ambient cross genre stuff is doing it at the moment like I said, people/ groups like The XX, Jamie XX (part of The XX but doing a solo thing), people like James Blake who seem to be doing deep stuff that has a load of different elements of music, and chart dubstep and dnb. All pretty decent stuff I'd say.

Garage is staying really small and underground, where I like it (the latter part anyway), despite a lot of naive people thinking '2Step is coming back' because people like Mike Skinner have made a few 2Step tracks and Dem2 have come back. I say -get in the real world, far bigger and popular producers have had a go and not succeeded. E.g. Grant Nelson having a go at reviving a bit of the early 90's sound by bringing the legendary 'Nice n RIpe' label back with new tracks etc, but that didn't really do much for it. There is some real good Garage coming out at the moment though, people like Mike Delinquent are doing it - check his remix of Wretch 32's 'Traktor', great track!

And House is underground, but still multinational and huge, I'd say. One of the hardest genre's to get along in I reckon, due to its size, and to get your releases on online shops like Traxsource etc. I've been going at it networking and making contacts for the past 2-3 years, (as well as honing my sound ) and am only just getting near getting my tracks on Traxsource (a personal goal for me!) All in good time though - achievement wise, nothing is ever easy and if it really is then it probably isn't that worth doing lol

I make deep house and broken beat although my sound is quite removed from what would be considered uk funky.

Future garage, and post dubstep might not be the best genre names about, but at least they are not a over saturated mess like dubstep (I am talking all the way from deep to bro).

Fuck dubstep everyone, and their mum is making dubstep. It's just a fucking grey sea.

BORING!!!

I don't really care that much about the labels people putting on music, as long as it stands out, and is not part of the grey sea, I will buy it. If I have to start looking for music labeled as future garage, or post dubstep to hear stuff that isn't a part of the grey sea I will.

Everyone is making music nowadays, and 99% are just fitting in doing nothing new (I am a part of this to). I am bored of hearing stuff that is just happy to fit in, and I am also bored of making stuff that fits in. I want to hear, and make music that don't fit into the grey sea, I want it to stand out. The labels people use are irrelevant to the music being great (by that I mean sticking out in the over saturated data cost nothing world we live in).

I am happy that their is not loads of stuff coming ois given these labels, and their is far more stand out tracks in the few bits that are, than in any other Bass music label about atm imo.

So why hate music because of it's label??? Surely quality that matters???

MikkiFunk wrote: I never said it wasn't, I said it was.

MikkiFunk wrote:The majority of most 'Funky' I've heard is of terrible quality, and not to confused or associated with House, thanks. .

doesn't need much more does it

MikkiFunk wrote:Erm, isn't that the point? - 'Funky' can't have been doing that much in '2011' because it hasn't got much more popular than when it first got a crowd. I thought it had died a death months ago, it all got too much hype around it and people killed it. I mentioned Crazy Cousins because they were probably one of the main pioneers at the start of UK Funky back in 2008-2009. So far, dubstep & more ambient stuff has been doing it in 2011, in my eyes anyway. And I don't really have time to, nor do i wish to follow UK Funky. I'll stick with the trying to get releases etc in the House scene thanks.

Died a death months ago?? It was people like you that tried to stop grime coming through. Bitter and jaded cause they're flailing scene was losing out to a more popular offshoot born through the roots of the stale genre.

Also, you must have your head in the sand

Hyperdub has signed ossie

Lil silva has been MERKING 2011

Petchy has been kaning radio NO END

Marcus Nasty has been kaning rinse fm, touring up and down the country

one of your precious garage producers DEA have got a funky release out

Terror Danjah's hardrive recordings has just release Champions banger

I could go on, seriously, let me know if you want me to, cause I will..

MikkiFunk wrote:Not at all attacking the producers for not knowing software, I was simply noting that a lot of people's track's that I heard when Uk Funky got really popular were clearly tracks they made in like an hour half heartedly, and they would put them up on facebook/ whatever and brand them as 'made this ting real quick - brand new funky house' or some bullshit like that. I don't know many people that could make a solid finished and mixed track in an hour.

Name name's?? These points can't stand unless you name names! Because you are obviously friends on wassbook with some talentless people.



None of your tracks on your soundcloud are better OR hyper than that vid... and that's some of his weaker stuff

Fair enough the MC'ing thing went a bit too far, but are you so blind that you cannot seperate the weak from the chaff? You get that in every genre, look at the progressive scene in your precious house genre, its 100% wank piano drivel...

As for people ringing up your radio station asking that, i can't see how that relates to this argument whatsoever??

MikkiFunk wrote:Now I just wish tracks like that Bucie track had maybe got popular through the 'uk funky' scene, but unfortunately that is the US House sound that would rarely get popular outside of an underground house scene, not something as soulful as that with the current state of the music industry.

that doesn't even make sense

People like you are the ones who just end up making everything stale. Music needs progression and bastardization, if it didn't it wouldn't of got to where it is today? Where THE FUCK did you think dubstep came from, from people getting annoyed with cheesy vocal garage, so they started taking the darker B-Side influence and creating their own.. I guarantee there were pricks like you at the time slating it off, where are they now?? still playing the same stuff as they were over 10 years ago.

Carry on making tunes that sound like that, at the end of the day they will just fall in with tens of thousand of other pieces that get thrown by the wayside as formulaic, boring and forgettable.

@3za im not hating it because of it's name bro, it just doesn't do anything new for me to be honest. There is the odd exception, but alot just sounds like a digitized version of what was popular 10 years or so ago.

The tracks you posted are nice, especially the first one, completely understand your point about it needing to stick out for people to buy it, I'm with you on the grey sea thing, bro to deep, it's all so boring i hate it.

It just needs to lose the 'future' tag (imo) whats it gonna be next year? Lol (if you get my point)

I think Future and Nu need to be ditched for any genre prefix. I don't mind Post so much, but happens after that?

^exactly

did you actually mention Mike Skinner in your post aswell..

LOL, so much lol

where are you from if you don't mind me asking?? edit* in fact thats irrelevant, i know people in berlin and in nz who are more up on the state of things than you

imo the minute you label something it becomes formulaic, more so nowdays

how can you hate so much on the genre when it's so common to garage? i mean really????

deamonds wrote:^exactly

did you actually mention Mike Skinner in your post aswell..

LOL, so much lol

where are you from if you don't mind me asking??

Not sure what you're referring to, I did not mention Mike Skinner.

I'm from Seattle.

wasn't talking to you bro, i should use the quote function more often lol i was addressing the other guy (not 3za)

deamonds wrote:wasn't talking to you bro, i should use the quote function more often lol i was addressing the other guy (not 3za)

Sorry, since I was the post above I thought that was directed at me.

CHOON FIGHTTTTT!

deamonds wrote:@3za im not hating it because of it's name bro, it just doesn't do anything new for me to be honest. There is the odd exception, but alot just sounds like a digitized version of what was popular 10 years or so ago.

The tracks you posted are nice, especially the first one, completely understand your point about it needing to stick out for people to buy it, I'm with you on the grey sea thing, bro to deep, it's all so boring i hate it.

It just needs to lose the 'future' tag (imo) whats it gonna be next year? Lol (if you get my point)

I see were you are coming from. At first I thought the "future" tag was a bit pointless, and a bit stupid, but now I see it as away to find some of the more interesting bass music about atm. Their is a lot of shit generic stuff coming out with this tag don't get me wrong, but the percentages are still good atm imo.

Someone post something on topic now

Great thread, archived for future reference.